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  1. PinSeeker

    Comparing KJV With ESV

    I'm going to interject something briefly here: Genesis 1 and 2 are one story, chapter 1 being from a general, high-level view of the whole act of creation by God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, and chapter 2 "zooming in on the creation of man (and woman). And then chapter 3...
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    Comparing KJV With ESV

    To the original post, I would respectfully submit that the whole premise is wrong. The KJV and the ESV say the same things, but the KJV, because of its antiquated language style, is easier to misunderstand. And that's clearly what's happening among many here. Grace and peace to all.
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    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    LOL!!! That's on you, Grailhunter. That's the very point ~ one of them, anyway ~ that I've been making to you and some others here. Totally ridiculous. You agreed, and then said it was an "assault on the Bible and Christianity." Yeah, ridiculous. Okay, end of conversation. Wow. Grace and...
  4. PinSeeker

    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    Well, right, and they have not understood themselves, really, in terms of their own sinfulness, sort of in the same light as the rich young man in Matthew 19 who said to Jesus, "All these I have kept." But yes, agreed. Grace and peace to you.
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    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    Well, you think you didn't, sure, but you did. Absolutely not. Again, Peter was basically rebuking those who still were of the mindset that Gentiles were not to be baptized ~ that they were not or could not be part of Israel ~ that baptism was only for ethnic Jews. So he's saying that...
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    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    Great! Thank you. God be praised! Yeah, there's always a 'but' coming. Hey. GrailHunter. Nobody ~ nobody ~ is saying that. That's a heresy called antinomianism ~ something I've said at least three times, here ~ and to my knowledge, no one is advocating that in any way. Great! So you are...
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    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    Yet another avoidance of what is... well, it's incontrovertible (Romans 8, 1 Peter 1). Nothing can ever separate those who are in Christ now from God. Period. From now and through eternity to come. And of course He's not going to hell, so neither are we. :) Grace and peace to you.
  8. PinSeeker

    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    But, as John tells us, those who don't believe never believed, even those who think they once did believe: "Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but...
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    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    You're taking it out of Peter's own context in saying that, Truther. Take a look at (particularly) verse 47, and then read the verse immediately following (48). You probably still will not see how that refutes your narrative, but so be it. To explain, Peter was basically rebuking those who...
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    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    Yes, we do, but we have different understandings of parts of it, and that's the problem. But regarding at least some of the things in the Bible, it really (ultimately speaking) doesn't matter much that there is disagreement. For example: 1. How old is the earth? Is it billions of years old...
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    When You Are Born Again of the Spirit

    Yes. Water baptism is very important (more on that in a moment), but not effectual of regeneration, as only God, by His Spirit, can do that. Well, if they haven't been baptized before, yes. Water baptism is a sign and seal of the covenant administered by men, and it is a calling ~ issued by...
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    When You Are Born Again of the Spirit

    Right. To be born again of the Spirit is, of course, a work of the Spirit. And it is baptism with the Holy Spirit and fire (Matthew 3:11) that is effectual unto salvation. Right. They were "cut to the heart," as Luke says in Acts 2:37, which is a work of the Spirit. Exactly. Grace and...
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    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    There is no "gray area." Peter is very clear, and I have been, too. See above. Grace and peace to you.
  14. PinSeeker

    Questions for OSAS deniers.

    Wholeheartedly agreed. But you're making the very point that you're trying to argue against. Which is, quite frankly, incredible. But so be it. Salvation, once given, cannot be lost, because it's God, not we ourselves, who maintains it in us: "He Who began a good work in you will bring it...
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    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    LOL! No, it looks like you still don't get it. And now you're putting words in my mouth, which is never a good thing to do... :) Peter's reply in verse 38 is most certainly not a mere suggestion. But that doesn't make it a command. Well, there's no other response to having been saved. You...
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    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    Is this a command or an optional request?... 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Neither. It's neither a command nor an "optional request." Peter is not...
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    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    Read this little excerpt from John 10, User: "So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, 'How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.' Jesus answered them, 'I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about...
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    Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

    Nobody's insinuating otherwise. It's not a commandment. It's an answer to their question regarding how to be saved. Well yes, but possibly no. There is no more condemnation for sin for those in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1). That does not mean there are no consequences for sin, but there is no...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Paul and Peter most assuredly did. Paul said, regarding God's purpose of election, "...it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy" (Romans 9:16) And Peter said, "(God) has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    That's just it; Augustine, Luther, Calvin, and Edwards (and all those that have come after) were (are) not wrong about God's nature, because of what God Himself says about His nature, in His Word. Getting God's nature wrong is precisely the problem, though, and that's exactly what Pelagius and...