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  1. Marty fox

    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    My view is that the “in that day” is talking about Jesus ushering in the New Covenant which happened in the first advent
  2. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    I believe that it was John the apostle remember even John the Baptist questionEd if Jesus was the messiah when he was already in prison right before he died He would of been confident after seeing Jesus in revelation chapter one if he wrote revelation
  3. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Sorry but I’m not quite sure what happened in post 67 it was to be to Ziggy somehow yours got tied into it I’m working from an iPad probably the same thing that happened to you in your original post 69
  4. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Look at your post #69 You replied to me quoting “Thanks but John the Baptist was long dead before revelation was written I believe that it was John the apostle” And then you said “Believe what you will. You make it plain that you already do believe what you will.” Then you said “Pity those...
  5. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Do you think that it was John the Baptist too?
  6. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    But Jesus was speaking directly to the religious leaders in Matthew 23 and that’s what I was talking about It’s okay if you don’t agree with what you replied too here you will never agree no matter what scriptures I provide
  7. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Thanks but John the Baptist was long dead before revelation was written I believe that it was John the apostle
  8. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Yes idolatry existed before Jerusalem but the point is here is that she was the harlot to God she was Gods people who whored herself out to other nations read Ezekiel chapter 16. Also take note of post #38 fro Truth 7t7 she can only be Jerusalem
  9. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    None of this is biblical authority but man’s assumptions I have books showing that it was before 70AD including some early church fathers but again they are not biblical authority either
  10. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    I didn’t say that you were accusing me I said that I’m not sure if you are accusing me
  11. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    But the Vatican didn’t kill the prophets only Israel killed both the prophets and the saints
  12. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Of course those actual people at that time did not kill the prophets who lived before them but some of Jerusalem as in the leaders of Jerusalem over time did My point is that Jesus in His own words tied Jerusalem directly to Babylon the great
  13. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    I’m saying that apostate Israel is Babylon the great the unfaithful Jews who rejected and killed their prophets and God and messiah I will check in on this in the morning
  14. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Yes they did kill the prophets Jesus even stated it in the very next verse Matthew 23 37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing...
  15. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Sorry but You have confused me I have no idea what you are saying or even if you are accusing me of I’m
  16. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    I have no idea what you are talking about I didn’t call unbelieving Israel Gods elect Apostate Israel are the ones who rejected and killed the God and Messiah
  17. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Below are 10 biblical points bible that tie first century Jerusalem to Babylon the great. 1) Ezekiel 16 and Revelation 18 If you read Ezekiel chapter 16 you will see that God mentions that Jerusalem prostituted herself to the nations. See how it resembles Revelation chapter 18 as God judges...
  18. Marty fox

    Understanding Who and What is the Babylon of Revelation.

    Hello there Jesus calls it a great city and also shows us that its the city of apostate Israel