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  1. Marty fox

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    We don't even know if Paul stated it after Revelation was written or not my point is that Paul was showing that it was a current reality when he was alive. God reveals the same things to different people at different times.
  2. Marty fox

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    We don't know or even need any it has no bearing on what Paul taught.
  3. Marty fox

    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Revelation 20:4 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark...
  4. Marty fox

    The reason Jesus was killed and Israel didn’t recognize Him.

    Yes of course, and I did kind of see what you were saying I was just trying to explain that their calling blood on themselves was a statement of rejection of Jesus not an exceptance of Jesus 97000 survived the seige and were taken as slaves to other nations and I believe that some did realize...
  5. Marty fox

    The reason Jesus was killed and Israel didn’t recognize Him.

    Yes that was it why wouldn’t you believe the truth? LOL just kidding Yes I still am but just a partial Preterist not a full one but I’m glad that you think some of it fits
  6. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Thanks I’m not a Preterist but a partial one and amill but it’s okay if we don’t fully agree on all things it’s the encential ones that matter
  7. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    The ark represents Gods covenant with Israel and it was behind the curtain in the temple and the high priest was allowed to enter once a year. Now the temple has been torn in half and now we the church have daily access to God and the promise of His covenant which is our access to heaven FYI I...
  8. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    How about the two witnesses being the Law and the Prophets that mirror Jesus life a witnessed and pointed to Jesus? This below is my study on them from a site I am helping running https://areopagus.proboards.com/thread/38/who-witnesses
  9. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Could be but I see them as beg of judgement on Jerusalem by the Romans
  10. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Yes 4,5 & 6 follow each other
  11. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Glad to hear God is good
  12. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    So did Arnie LOL Praying for a good recovery and improvement for you
  13. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    You need to look at the rest of the message of the bible to get the proper interpretation. Ask yourself is that Jesus character? Jesus is the prince of peace and came to heal and restore and bring true inner peace. What Jesus is saying is that because of Him and His message families will be...
  14. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    They refer to the 4 horses in Zechariah If you line up the seals to Matthew 24 you will see the same events. I believe it was the time leading up to 70 AD Jesus doesn’t make people kill each other...
  15. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    I believe that it was famine the Jews were arrogant and burned their own food stock during the Roman siege to show the Roman’s that they weren’t afraid of them because God would save them.
  16. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Yes there is when the text says Jesus was taken up to heaven and His throne. You can have a different interpretation of the text but you can’t say that there is nothing in the text indicate it. Yes I agree of course Jesus had power to cast out demons before the cross I just believe that they...
  17. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Your welcome, I believe revelation 12 is an short overview of revelation itself showing a transition from the old covenant to the new covenant from ethnic Israel to spiritual Israel Revelation 6 lines up with Matthew 24
  18. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Yes of course I believe and know all of this I just don’t believe that the Old Testament saints are the ones under the altar. One thing though is that you are wrong in the timing of when satan was cast to the earth Jesus Himself confirms that it was well after His birth and tells us when it...
  19. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Sure thanks for asking I actually have a verse by verse study of revelation 12 I believe they are separate events Revelation chapter 12:4 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so...
  20. Marty fox

    How long O Lord

    Revelation 12 11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. Revelation 6 9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of...