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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes that's correct. If it was not cut short there would be no flesh alive to receive salvation at the rapture. Matthew 24 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Yes, that's also correct. There are two...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    You are in error here. The Antichrist is not Satan. Satan is the dragon. The beast(antichrist) and false prophet are cast into the Lake of Fire. The dragon, Satan, is bound a thousand years. Rev 19 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes, that speaks of Christians. Part of Israel will have it's eyes opened when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in (pre trib rapture). The dragon goes after the seed of the woman, the 12 tribes across the earth, during the 70th week of Daniel, when it can't get to those in Israel that have...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I see no mention of the Church. The Church will already be in heaven when this event occurs. Luke 21:25-28 is for the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman....Israel. Revelation 14 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    No. The person discussed in Daniel 11:37 is not "THE" Antichrist. He is "AN" Antichrist. In the last days there will be more than one false savior. Matthew 24 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. The person in Daniel 11:37 is a King of the North that...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    That was a little humor that you missed. Pretrib... John Nelson Darby. Amillennialism... Klan Felton Farley. Fictional character. But the real humor is that you use Darby and claim that a pretribulation rapture cannot be correct because it was not taught before 1800's (which is incorrect) Then...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    How did you come to believe in Amillennialism? Amillennialism is a man-made belief that began in 1580 and was started by German immigrant Klan Felton Farley.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Looks like you read past something important. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. I've got to think that you might possibly understand that Paul was talking about those at HIS present time that were Jews that could see that Jesus was...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Well, I can see what is written in the book of Revelation. I can either accept the written Word of God and believe it or I can start making things up that aren't in the Word of God which is what I see happening all the time. Is my mind carnal because I am willing to accept what is written and...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Let's read all the Word and accept what it says. How can the twelve tribes across the earth possibly be the Church? The Jews have their eyes blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Understanding Revelation is not really understanding spiritual things. It is understanding the order of events. From what I've seen, it is those that want to use their spiritual insight that have no clue. They get off the road by using their great spiritual insight when the answer is already...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    If you want to understand revelation, you need logic and common sense. For example..... Rev 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Which has absolutely nothing to do with the FACT that Noah, his family, and all the animals were in the ark 7 days before the flood.
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    No. The Lord Himself comes for His Church. The bridegroom comes for the bride. No angels involved.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Please. Your lack of simple logic is why you don't understand. The cosmic signs of the sun, moon and stars mark the coming of Jesus to the clouds at the sixth seal. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord when the 7th trumpet sounds, LOGICALLY should tell you that Jesus...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    No, this is not true. Noah was in the ark 7 days before the flood, even as the Church will be in heaven 7 years before wrath. Genesis 7 9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Nice. Not one bit of thought or logic to draw any conclusion. No understanding that the mystery of God is finished when the 7th angel begins to sound. Not one bit of thought or logic is applied when the Word tells us that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Just read...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    This is just something Perry Stone made up because He doesn't understand that the fig tree has two harvests.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I don't understand your question. What do you mean that Matthew 24 was earlier? Jesus comes in Matthew 24, but he remains in the clouds and sends His angels. The coming of Jesus in Matthew 24, is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal, is the coming of Jesus in Rev 14. Matthew 24 30 And then shall...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The wrath of God and the wrath of the Lamb are the same thing. The reason you find these events separated is because people are confusing the tribulation for the wrath of the Lamb, which it's not. How are you not understanding that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is the coming of Jesus at...