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  1. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Hmmm. *yawn* Please explain why there is a great multitude in heaven that returns with Christ as part of the armies of Christ before Armageddon if the Lord only comes once, after Armageddon. Don't be led by the blind. Rev 19 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Uhhhhhhh.....Yeah they did. Here's what Paul also wrote. The Lord himself shall descend from heaven WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD. 1 Thes 4 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Exactly. This is Paul teaching about the rapture TO THE CLOUDS. What you consider the second coming is when Jesus comes to the earth with the armies from heaven. The marriage supper of the lamb is in heaven where those raptured attend.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    That's some baloney. Paul, Jesus and John all taught a pretribulation rapture. But since you don't understand the scriptures, you can't see it. And if you were correct, which you are not, what does that prove? Germs weren't discovered until 1860. Does that mean anyone that believes in germs is...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    That is not "THE ANTICHRIST" the man of sin, being talked about in Daniel 11. There are many false Christs in the last days. Matthew 24 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. That King of the North that claims to be God, is the second beast. The first...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The rapture of the Church will be a secret. And ther tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. And there are not 21 tribulation and wrath. The trumpets and vial occur during the same time frame. The vials are just a different view of things that happen in Gods wrath, just as the...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Absolute malarky. The Word says something totally different. Romans 11 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    As I already knew, you could not produce any scriptural support that the Antichrist is a Jew. None. And you better get busy, because PHONEMAN777 is making a mockery of your John Nelson Darby yada, yada, yada, regurgitation.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Indeed. Fact. Many of those in blindness are there because they cannot accept what is written. The 144,000 are twelve thousand from each tribe. Period. They are not the corporate manchild or other such nonsense. They are not the Gentile Church, and they do not represent all of the Jews of...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Please produce some scripture that supports the Antichrist being a Jew?
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    You only think that the book of Revelation shows something else. The book of Revelation shows that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal and then the wrath of God begins. If you can prove otherwise, I would certainly like to see it.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The entire 70th week of Daniel is not under Gods wrath. The 70th week are the seals and the wrath of God does not begin until the 6th seal.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Wow. I'm stunned by stunnedbygrace. Many people are unable to understand Genesis 7 even though all you have to do is read what it says. Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood, even as the Church will be in heaven before the 70th week of Daniel.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    It's everywhere. You just can't see it. How is it that you don't believe Jesus? You know He comes at the end of wrath, and yet He tells you: Matthew 24 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. How do you not understand that we can escape ALL...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    LOL. Oh boy. Enoch111 just made the point that it is prophesied that the Lord comes with His saints from heaven to execute judgement. And you avoid his question....because you truly have no answer. The truth would force you to admit your error. Wouldn't you rather proclaim the truth instead of...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Or the point is be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Peter point blank tells you NOT TO BE IGNORANT OF THIS ONE THING, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. And you...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I'm not sure how Peter can make his point any clearer. It should be obvious. be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    2 Peter 3 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    What is my point? That's not the question. The question is what was Peter's point?
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yep. That's how it will be in the day of the Lord. Peter tells us about the heavens and earth reserved unto fire. And then he adds one important thing that you can't seem to grasp. I will highlight it for you. Maybe then you will understand that Peter said this for a reason and he emphasized not...