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  1. PinSeeker

    A NEW TAKE ON THE AOD

    Disagree. An oversight in misquoting you verbatim; I apologize. But, same difference, really. Sounds like we disagree on what is actually prophesied. That may be correct, but it may not be. We just don't know. Yes, it could happen at any time, so we must be ready. All we really know is...
  2. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    All I was asking for is your opinion on that question. And all that was needed was a simple yes or no. You gave me neither. So, again, do you think it's possible to be sinless in this life? You know, to have perfectly repented of all your sin, and then to never sin again? In this life? Yes...
  3. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    So... lean on your own understanding? God tells us not to do that... (Proverbs 3:5) :) Grace and peace to you.
  4. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    If John Calvin was right (and he was), then why should we not listen to him? I mean, ultimately, yes, Calvin was just a man. But still... He was right. For the most part, anyway. Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    LOL! Now how could he welcome his son home if his son... did not... come... home...? :) So you're saying that we have to be "re-saved"... possibly over and over and over again, depending on how much more we sin... :) As I said, thanks be to God, such is not the case. Grace and peace.
  6. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    No, again, Jesus tells these parables ~ all three of them in Luke 15 ~ to the Pharisees, because they were grumbling about Jesus receiving sinners and even eating with them; the Pharisees thought these "sinners" were unworthy. And in this parable, the older brother is representative of the...
  7. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    The parable is NOT ABOUT REPENTANCE. Yes, the son repeats his prepared speech, but the father cuts him short before he finishes, showing that he has already forgiven him. Because of his love, despite his son's sins against him. Grace and peace to you.
  8. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    In coming back, the father knew the son was repentant. But again, the parable is not about repentance or lack thereof. See above. Who's Joey? Yeah, that was, um, somebody else. Grace and peace.
  9. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Okay, yeah, don't do that. :) I would respectfully ask that, if you are going to have a conversation with me, only attribute to me what I have said. Or possibly what I have agreed with. Yes, but the parable is not about his repentance or lack thereof. Yeah, so in view of the previous answer...
  10. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    He never actually repented to the father. You say, "at the pig trough." Well, the father wasn't there when the son said this (to himself). The point of the parable is that the father never turned his back on the son, was going to forgive the son's sin against him, and was going to welcome the...
  11. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Yes, I'm... well aware of that. Painfully aware... :) Now, this is a little different subject than the one at hand, but do you think it's possible to be sinless in this life? You know, to have perfectly repented of all your sin, and then to never sin again? In this life? Absolutely not...
  12. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Absolutely. And John Calvin's understanding of God's grace is, well, correct. Once given, it cannot be lost, because it is God, by His Spirit, in His power, Who maintains it in the person and, in the words of Paul, brings this good work to completion at the day of Christ, or in the words of...
  13. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    But the father was waiting for him long before that. You think the father heard the son in the pig trough? LOL! No... Not in any shape, form, or fashion. Repentance ~ continual repentance for sin, because we still can't help but sin, at least from time to time... <snicker> ~ is the...
  14. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Oh, my goodness. No, the promise is that nothing can separate those of us in Christ Jesus from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus. LOL! This makes no sense: "Not even sin can separate OSAS from their grace..." What??? "since she won't allow God to see them" What??? You're trying to...
  15. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Ah, but the father was waiting for the prodigal sun to return ever since he had left, and ran out to meet him, and... had decided to celebrate even before the son had a chance to repent outwardly... :) Grace and peace to you.
  16. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    "The habit of false doctrinaires is to create as many false scenarios as they need, in order to prop up the doctrines they create without Scripture." This is absolute rubbish. Illustrations are good things, very useful from time to time. Jesus used them; today we call them parables :) That...
  17. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death... What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son...
  18. PinSeeker

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    All the labels people put on stuff can sometimes be unhelpful. And "once saved always saved (OSAS)" is kind of a clumsy way of labeling God's great salvation, really. But salvation, once given, cannot be lost. As Peter says: "According to (God's) great mercy, (God) has caused us to be born...
  19. PinSeeker

    A NEW TAKE ON THE AOD

    That's a great question. Everybody has an imagination... :) Right, well, John tells us that everyone who reads aloud, hears, and keeps what is written in his revelation will be blessed; there is no minimum age requirement or level of intelligence, or anything else mentioned. And everyone...
  20. PinSeeker

    A NEW TAKE ON THE AOD

    In my humble opinion... this is way, way, to literalistic. What will happen will certainly be a literal event (or sequence of events). I'll just say it like this: Revelation should be read as a picture book, or even a fantasy novel. That's certainly not to say that it is fiction, of course...