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I actually don’t overall but the topic of this thread is the rapture so it is about the church

Sorry but I have no idea what you mean?

Yes amen Jeff we are here until the end to spread the word.

Im not disputing that we will be raptured but I believe right before Jesus second coming at the end of our world not before a so called seven year tribulation.

What did Paul teach us that the rapture is for? When it would occur? There are two main teachings by Paul on the rapture,the first one is: 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest...

Yes that is the rapture and that will be in Part 2

Introduction Does the bible really teach us that the rapture is the church being rescued by Jesus from a 7 year tribulation? Actually, the rapture or even a seven year tribulation is not mentioned in the book of Revelation. The book of Revelation shows the church going through a 3 1/2 year...

Many Christians today are making the same mistake about Jesus kingdom as the first century Jews did.

So if peoples names are removed from the book of life when they take the mark can John 3:16 still be true?

Or the no stones left on top of another could be symbolic for total destruction since the temple was destroyed within that generation. God often uses symbolism so that different generations and cultures can all understand them. In the verse below do you really think that literal hearts actually...

Except that the book of life was also opened.

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The...

It also says the rewarding of the saints thus this is the same timing as the GWTJ in revelation chapter 20.

No I haven’t except that they says that it’s not the same timing

Yes clearly revelation chapter 20 ties the 7th trumpet from chapter 11 to after the thousand years. This is quite profound since revelation chapter 20 is so important to futurist.

As Paul says 2 Corinthians 2:6 For he says, “In the time of my favor I heard you, and in the day of salvation I helped you.” I tell you, now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation. Yes today is the day of salvation and has been for the last 2000 years not a time in the future.

But look at what actually happens at the 7th trumpet. The Seventh Trumpet 15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”...

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Amen and how many Christian Jews are there today? They saw the light with the same chance as any Jew and without any special treatment.

Thanks Randy and you know that the feeling is mutual as we always debate with love and respect. The thing is that Jesus did bring deliverance but not from foreign control or occupation because Jesus had a better deliverance one that would last beyond human life. Jesus often mentioned that he...