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No, and such a position is not stated in the scriptures. As for the other verses, they are not false, but often misunderstood. The problem is such verses must be reconciled to all of what is written...and your "but not forever" position does not reconcile all.

:) I don't have the numbers in my head, only the words. I looked it up. Here's a freeby: Daniel 12:2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.

That position assumes that there are none who perish...which cannot be truthfully stated, as the scriptures say there are. Consider therefore, that yes, all come "under His feet" and are turned over to the Father...but as Danial writes, "Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting...

While I agree, this perhaps should be addressed. God refers to the complete mystery of God being finished "as He declared to His servants the prophets." Meaning that, yes, at any given time no one person has a full and accurate understanding of God....but, it is also true that "all truth" is...

Very close indeed.

Good, one thing at a time. But do understand, I am addressing a 2,000 year old error deeply imbedded into the doctrines of the church. This is not an easy task, and it is understandably not likely to be received. That, however, does not take away the biblical fact that false teachings and great...

I see that Episkopos has answered for himself, so I will leave it at that. And I am not sure I fully understand your position regarding him. In any case, you two are communicating and perhaps I shouldn't be in the middle.

I said I would not. But just look for the fruit. I see great compassion and energy for what is true from God. What do you see?

Snit--love that word! :D Actually, you bring up an excellent point. Spreading the gospel and doing our part to fulfill the great commission does not have to be a greatly spiritual endeavor per se. I mean, it's really just information. In which case tact and a sensitivity toward effective...

I could speak such an assessment, but I will not. A tree is known by its fruit. That is enough. As for Episkopos...he indeed has his gifts.

I am finding it hard to read all the posts here. But the reason is not because much of it is not true, but rather because of the great number who take would-be God-give gifts upon themselves to make claims without such authority, and most of what is posted seems to be against the Spirit. And...

Certainly having grace as a default position is Christ-like and a great position to take as a Christian--at least for most Christians. However, for those who are called to correction or prophecy or proclamation by the spiritual gift of God, it would be a disservice to God to water down the...

Understandably, you are the one actually missing the point (just as so many have). Remember, the point is "strong delusion." "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect". Which if it did not apply to the Thessalonians...

The passage does indeed regard the damned, but only in contrast while otherwise addressing the saved. This is the circumstance with all who are born since Adam. Just as Moses set before Israel "life and death, blessing and cursing", this is the same for all. In other words, we are all under the...

Unfortunately, that is what has been wrongly taught. To be clear, "There is none righteous, no, not one." Certainly not 144,000. The words are spirit. "An hundred forty and four thousand" simply means all (translated "thousand") of all the twelve tribes times "another fold" (another twelve)...

Welcome @Paul2! Unfortunately, Pre', Mid', or Post' tribulation beliefs all are victims of the foretold "lie" that was and has caused "strong delusion." Nearly all of Christendom has considered a future one-time event of great tribulation to be more than all the tribulation placed upon Christ...

Answering a question with a question establishes a baseline of what one believes, because we are more inclined to believe our own answer rather than any answer given. In this same way, Jesus also asked who people said that He was. Their various answers (including Peter's answer) was a statement...

Matthew, Thank you for your determination to be fair and considerate of all interpretations or opinions, but my post was neither. It was rather the truth from God according to the foretold leading unto all truth and the finish of the mystery of God preceding the sounding of the seventh angel.

Such confusion regarding the term "soul!" Such confusion comes because it would appear that the "soul" is not actually body or spirit. Thus these many wild speculations. But what would anyone of us call a creation given a body and a mind that walks and talks but has been sentenced to death and...

It is because we are born into a world of angst only temporarily concealed by the light of day and the joy of hope. All of time is the "end time"-- time by definition is the end. Technically speaking, yes, there is and end time to the end time...because technically the end time (or time of the...