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Lol. How about showing us one rapture text that shows a trib after. You have ducked around this for long enough. You repeatedly stating it means nothing. You also said you would tell us the length of the Trib.

You keep making ridiculous claims like this, when the opposite is the truth. He is presenting truth, and you are presenting extra-biblical theories.

From God's perspective not long. Just like from God's perspective He said 2000 years ago Jesus was coming soon.

It is refreshing for you to actually address (and keep to) Scripture. So thanks for that. It makes for more fruitful engagement. However, I disagree with your interpretation. The desolation continues to the end - the consummation. There is nothing about Isreal being birthed as a nation...

Once again, you ignore the timing, and add your own faulty narrative. You totally ignore the fact the text shows that that Satan is banished from heaven after Christ (the man child) ascends up into heaven. Why? He has lost his seat of accusation - as the penaltyfor sin has been paid. It...

Please address my post, if you can. Avoidance does not advance your position, quite the opposite.

Please address my post. You tend to avoid the rebuttals of others. That is necessary (i believe) because they expose your position.

This is another self-defeating argument. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:9 declares: “if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming [Gr...

Revelation 12:5-11 declares: "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two...

Daniel 9:26-27 declares, “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined...

When the Bible student carefully analyses the graphic descriptive detail of the seventh trumpet in Revelation in the light of other like Scripture he is left in no doubt to its subject matter and its startling cohesion with other prophetic readings. Only a blinkered eschatology student could...

We should recognize: the seven trumpets outlined in Revelation chapters 8 to 10 are the only set of prophetic trumpets in Scripture. Scripture carefully knits together to show a climactic coming of Christ at the end. Interesting all these references show us that His return is ushered in by the...

Read Scripture. Read history. Check out AD70. This has already been long-fulfilled. Please address the biblical evidence. Jesus, first of all, speaks about the destruction of the temple in AD70, as a result of Israel's unbelief. He then talks about a future climactic day in the future when...

Why not? The tribulation is the wrath of Satan against the Church. The coming of Christ sees the wrath of God being poured out on all the wicked and destroying them all. Pretrib constantly mixes these 2 up. Have you ever considered the climatic detail that surrounds the last trumpet's blast?

Why do you talk like this? This is all projection.

He comes at the end with the blast of the last trump. Then we are into eternity.

Ok. I apologize for that. It is not my intent to offend you. It can be frustrating posting detailed biblical analyzes, whereupon you just post a chart (which i never read), as a rebuttal. I also do not do links. To then dismiss others arguments as deficient because they do not present a chart...

If you are not going to engage in biblical discussion, but simply continue to place your charts on this thread then please move to another subject. This is a discussion forum. I am not prepared to let you derail this thread.

Exactly. They butcher God's Book. They do not want to consider truth. Of course, it takes eyes to see for that. Their forced types re 50/50 salvation and Noah in the ark for 6 days representing 6 years of tribulation is a joke. They focus on that because they have nothing else.

Someone should report these these guys to their parents. There should be more online monitoring. They wallow in mud slinging. That is because they have not one single prooftext.