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I have. You have avoided. That is what Pretribbers do. This thread is testimony to that. Viewers can see that for themselves. The coming of Christ ushers in the destruction. It is sudden. None escape. The flood of fire will destroy all the wicked after Christ has caught up all His elect. You...

I will repeat what i previously presented, and show the parallel usage by Paul, that gives us similar insight: 1 Thessalonians 4:15-5:7 says: “For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden [Gr...

You have not been able to present any evidence that says the wrath of God is a 7 year trib. All we have is your words. You have been unable to show in any of these passages that a 7 year trib follows the coming of Christ.

They are the "firstfruits" of the last days harvest. They are already in.

More avoidance. More diversion. I refer you back to my avoided post.

Where is the word "Church" mentioned in Revelation 4? Nowhere! There is only one fold today. There only ever will be one fold. Jesus said, speaking to His Jewish converts, in John 10:14-16, “I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know...

Not so. Quite the opposite! I have presented the English and you have rejected it. I have presented the original and you have rejected it.

Dispensationalists give lip service to their golden rule of literal interpretation but their theology totally contradicts it. There is no biblical evidence that teaches a rapture of the Church, followed by a 7-year tribulation, followed by 3rd coming. Where is it in Daniel 9? Where is it in 1...

So quote the said passage with your "rapture" and then show me support for that elsewhere in Scripture?

More lies. You have no rebuttal. Your fight is with the original text and the English. That is why I quote both. You have no proof-texts. If you had them you would produce them.

But, what do they not "escape"? They do not "escape" the "SUDDEN destruction" that accompanies the Lord's return. Hello! That is what the text actually says. Stop explaining away the words of Scripture. Pretribs have a major problem with taking the Bible literally. That is because it strongly...

Check the Op. It refutes your post! Why do Pretribbers avoid it???

LOL. I have several times. Again: your response is total avoidance. I will repost. The reader will see the avoidance that is required for Pretrib to fit. Where is a rapture mentioned in Revelation 3:10? Where is a 7 yr trib mentioned in Revelation 3:10? Where is a 3rd coming mentioned in...

I have already addressed these passages numerous times with you and you have ducked around the rebuttals every time. This is a Pretrib trait. That is because you have to. None of these prove a rapture of the Church, followed by a tribulation period, followed by a third coming of the Lord. You...

LOL. Read the OP. You have ducked around those compelling Scriptures for long enough! I wonder why?

None of this proves Pretrib. Presenting random Scriptures does not prove a rapture of the Church, followed by a tribulation period, followed by a third coming of the Lord. None of you can show this because it does not exist in the Word of God. It can only be found in your Left Behind novels...

More avoidance.

That is all you have now, words and no Scripture.

Oh, so you are now midtrib?

That is all you have now, words and no Scripture.