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Stop avoiding! Do you believe the wicked literally "shall not escape" as the Bible says (1 Thessalonians 5:3)? You know in Lot and Noah's day all the elect were immediately and totally rescued and all the wicked were immediately and totally destroyed. So it will be when Jesus appears. Lot and...

All you have is personal words/your opinions, no Scripture. The reader can see that.

I already showed you what the Bible said about the third woe. The passage you quoted does not mention the third woe. It seems like in your estimation, any time the word "woe" comes up in Revelation it refers to the 3rd woe? I believe your confusion emanates from the fact that you view...

Yes it does! Jesus likened that day to Noah and Lot's day. How many escaped then? Do you literally believe the wicked will experience "sudden destruction" from His appearance as the Bible says (1 Thessalonians 5:3)? Do you literally believe the wicked "shall not escape" as the Bible says (1...

I do not honestly know how that come up. I have amended to correct KJV rendering.

We all agree that this is the catching away. But what are those left behind for? Does it say they are left behind for a tribulation period or for sudden destruction? Destruction! That is why Jesus says: remember Lot's wife. That is why He tells us wherever the dead bodies are there are vultures...

Amils believe we are rescued from the final wrath. Any wrath on the wicked today we are exempted from.

Really? I think you think that you stating an opinion makes it a fact. That is not true. You have to actually quote the text aunt show the biblical evidence for it to be true. That is something you cannot do. Read what the text says without any manipulation. 2 Peter 3:3-15 tells us: “there...

LOL. And where is your Scripture? Do you even think your beliefs need hard Scripture? This is frankly ridiculous. You are full of noise. You have not one single prooftext.

Do you have the ability to let the Bible speak for itself instead of imposing your views on the sacred text? The third woe is the 7th Trumpet and the destruction that accompanies it at the climactic second coming. The 7th trumpet is the last trump elsewhere in Scripture. This is the end of the...

You are TOTALLY butchering the text. Understandably so. The text strongly forbids Pretrib and Premil. This is a whole load of nothing.

But it says: none will escape. So, you are fighting with Scripture. It seems like you are trying to dilute the meaning in order to allow Pretrib. You are manipulating the Word. Amils take the text literally. This is where we differ.

You have no idea. You can post what you've been taught on so many passages it is hard to take your posts serious. Revelation 11:12 says, “And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. And the...

He reveals Himself in Scripture before the cross in physical and angelic form. He is God! But He is greater than both. Genesis 16:11-13: “the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy...

40 is a generation in Scripture. Hello! Most objective theologians know that. Check the importance of 40 in Scripture. We are not talking about an extended age as a special blessing. Israel is apostate. They are under the wrath of God. They are in rebellion. They reject Christ.

It must be over 3 days. Lol. What are you hiding?

The wrath of God is constantly upon the wicked. That is a current reality. The final wrath is total destruction. That comes at the one and only future coming of Christ. We are rescued before the final wrath.

Here we go. Pretribs keep moving the posts every time their claims are rendered null and void. A generation is stretched out from 40 to 50 to 70 to 80. Talk about manipulating Scripture.

Not true. Quote it.

This is all personal opinion. None of it is biblical. Give me Scripture.