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  1. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    Yes the beginning of Matthew 24 is about the great tribulation of the church but then it changings to Israel. Why would the church need to pray that it doesn't happen on the sabbath?
  2. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    I never claimed that it started in 70AD it has nothing to do with that It is against the church and it started on the day Steven was stoned to death and is still happing today. Revelation 7 shows that it is against the church.
  3. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    No they are different the one in revelation 7 is “the great tribulation” which is on the saints The one in the Olivit discourse is “a great tribulation” which is on Israel there are most than one
  4. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    Actually the great tribulation is on the church and has been happening for almost 2000 years. The wrath of God is different and it is on the world The Great Multitude in White Robes 9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation...
  5. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    The verse below shows that we changed at the resurrection 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed And the verses below show us when after the resurrection and they won’t die ...
  6. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    I wouldn't deny it either and I don't. My point is that the resurrection happens at the rapture. 1 corrinthians 15:35-55 The Resurrection Body 35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it...
  7. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    Of course the church isn't under the wrath but there is a difference between the wrath of God and the persecution of the saints. The lake of fire also isn't God wrath but Gods judgement
  8. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture? Part one

    Not Not according to the last verse below Luke 17:26-37 26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man.27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them...
  9. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture part two?

    What did Paul teach us that the rapture is for? When it would occur? There are two main teaching by Paul on the rapture,the first one is: 1.1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest...
  10. Marty fox

    What and when is the rapture? Part one

    Introduction Does the bible really teach us that the rapture is the church being rescued by Jesus from a 7 year tribulation? Actually, the rapture or even a seven year tribulation is not mentioned in the book of Revelation. The book of Revelation shows the church going through a 3 1/2 year...
  11. Marty fox

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    I don’t think that Nero was the antichrist but the sea beast of revelation. The sea beast and the antichrist are two very different entities. My view is entirely to do with revelation and history as history is what reveals the true interpretation of prophecies and nothing else.
  12. Marty fox

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Please reread what I just said I never said anything about Jerusalem and Nero
  13. Marty fox

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    I have no idea how you think Tim debunked anything here I am a PP not a full one and I have never avoided 2 Thess 2:4 it was Nero who set himself up as God by demanding that everyone worship him including Gods temple (the church)
  14. Marty fox

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Sorry but I have no idea what your talking about I’m talking about Rev 20:4 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not...
  15. Marty fox

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    I agree with you but that’s my point that sometimes there is more behind the verse is isn’t strictly literal.
  16. Marty fox

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    You are right we have no right to argue against God but my point is that the bible shows us that God doesn’t do things out of character. Thus there must be a different interpretation. For example if this verse is literal then what if a saint was killed by the beast in a different way wouldn’t...
  17. Marty fox

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Then how come it is only them who come back to life and reign?
  18. Marty fox

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Well said "Therefore, God is not going to honor any martyr above another.". How true they wouldn't be more honored than those burned to death or fed to lions
  19. Marty fox

    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    I think that its the revelation of Jesus as in who He is and what He did. Jesus is God and He ushered in the new covenant. I also think that revelation is a book of transition from the old covenant to the new covenant from the earthly Jerusalem to the new Jerusalem. Thus revelation is about...