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This is the one and only coming of the Lord Jesus Christ to the sky to rescue all His elect and destroy all the wicked. That is a picture of heavenly Jerusalem today. Earthly Jerusalem has been judged and condemned already. She has lost her theocratic favorite position throughout the world...

Can you actually give me Scripture instead of presenting your own private opinions?

John saw a vision after vision describing the intra-advent age. The last seal is silence in heaven. Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

You are forcing something into this that does not exist. Of course, "there is more than one time and one season." Hello! We all know that and believe that. But Jesus is talking about the different events that occur before the one final future coming of Christ. You cannot attribute anything more...

Pretribbers have a lovely way of engaging.

What does this mean in your opinion? What does this prove? How does this support a rapture of the Church followed by a tribulation followed by another coming?

End-Time Great Tribulation Centred Upon Earthly Jerusalem??? You are looking to the wrong Jerusalem. I don’t believe that the focal point of end-time history is upon earthly Jerusalem (that is under bondage); I believe that it will be focused upon the inhabitants of the New Jerusalem – you and...

How many times do I need to repeat? Revelation is not chronological. It is definitely not a single unfolding sequence of historic events from start to finish. It is certainly not chronological. There are many parts of the book that do not run in a linear fashion. Revelation lays out its own...

Daniel 12:1-3 reveals, “And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that...

Check the Op. This correlates with the 6th seal.

Where?

I do not see anyone doing that for simply following your belief if you tell a lie about what they believe then that is understandable. Who here is doing that? Or is this a lie you are making up to discredit Posttribs?

How does it? Explain.

I genuinely do not know how you come to that conclusion or what your point is. The coming of the Lord ushers in the end. That is what the Bible teaches. What is your issue?

You are obsessed with promoting your questionable charts. That is all you have. You are offended when you know others ignore your charts. Talk about pride. Sadly you are not convicted.

You Pretribbers are so godly in your lingo. I asked you to show me a rapture passage that teaches a tribulation followed by a 3rd coming.

We become kings when we come to Jesus. We hold that position in heaven when we die. Crowns symbolically represent that position.

I meant Matthew 24:21.

I have showed you several times that the tribulation of those days of Matthew 24:21 was fulfilled in AD70. But you had no rebuttal. The argument still stands. You have obviously no response apart from your faulty charts.