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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly! This is all they have!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Address any text in the Op and i will be happy to engage. But no. You duck around these because they forbid your taught error. I will wait and see if you (or your Pretrib colleagues) will actually address, engage, and exegete a text. The reader will see thread after thread of avoidance and...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Dr. Luke is more specific, and seems to identify both the warning that would appear, and the location (or holy place) where it would appear. He states, “when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” After identifying this, he then declares, in...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Revelation 17:8 states, “The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Jesus, first of all, speaks about the destruction of the temple in AD70, as a result of Israel's unbelief. He then talks about a future climactic day in the future when every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Here were two key events that would happen in...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I do not agree. Jesus said in Matthew 24:15-22, “When ye (the disciples) therefore shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, whoso readeth, let him understand: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This sums up Pretrib evidence. It involves twisting the meaning of text after text. It is a total distortion of Holy Writ, making it say what it doesn't remotely says.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You previously told me they were not the Church. Which is it? You seem to be confused with your own position.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You seem to have a problem with addressing the biblical texts you reference and also quoting them and exegeting them line upon line. You seem to repeat the Pretrib catchphrases you have been taught from the Left Behind novels. without bring hard Scripture to the table.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is all noise. Where is your future Pretrib rapture in Revelation?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Those who are left behind when Jesus comes are destroyed. You are yet to address the Op that exposes Pretrib and reinforces Postrib.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Hello! We are in the trib. It has been ongoing since the early Church. The NT Church has always been in tribulation. Where is your future Pretrib rapture in Revelation?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You seem incapable of actually addressing the sacred text and refuting the biblical Posttrib arguments. That is a testimony of how watertight the arguments are. All we get is your Pretrib talking points, but no biblical substance. When one argument is exposed, you move to another. It is...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not true. Please stick to the facts. Let us address this 1 at a time. The marriage of the Lamb is our union with Christ in Revelation 19. Jesus comes with and for His saints. That is where He comes for His bride - us.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    More lies! I showed you a detailed outline of Revelation, and you say this. You are obviously frustrated because every argument, theory and twisting of Scripture you have presented has been solidly and repeatedly debunked. Do you realize how pitiful Pretrib looks to those watching on?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Lol. The reason is, it is not in God's Book. You know it! Avoidance is all you have. You cannot respond to the Op or every single text presented here that forbids Pretrib. Your theology seems like an elaborate cinvulted man-made extra-biblical scheme.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Stop cherry-picking what you quote and stop adding unto Scripture. Read the context! Jesus says of His coming in Matthew 24:35-44: “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    ... and this is at the core of Pretrib confusion. Where does the Bible say that the wrath of God equals a 7-years tribulation? Nowhere! It is a made up theory that Pretribs keep paroting as a fact, yet it is extra-biblical fiction. Isaiah speaks of the resurrection of the dead, in Isaiah...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    I see a pattern with Pretribs, because they have no supporting Scripture, Pretribbers imagine that stating a theory is proving a fact. It is not. This is what you have been taught, not what Scripture teaches. That why you have no prooftexts.