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The proof is above. You never address the verses that prove that.

Not so. You ran from the discussion bereft of any proof texts. Show all these Scriptures that show a rapture before a 7-year trib followed by your 3rd coming then. I will not hold my breath. You were right in your quote. You know it. Now everyone will see how devoid Pretrib is and how you...

Exactly bro! The Scriptures speak for themselves. They do not need altered or added to. They do not need subtracted from. They do not need weird convoluted man-made theories foisted upon them.

II Thessalonians 2:1-8 says, “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming [Gr. parousia] of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of the Christ...

1 Corinthians 15:22-24 confirms the finality of that day and its clear relation to the end, saying, “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming [Gr. parousia]. Then...

I want to say at the start, this is not an attack on individual Pretribbers. There are many solid Pretribbers out there. This is a challenge on the doctrine espoused by them. Anyone that has engaged with Pretribbers on forums like this will know that they cannot furnish us with one single proof...

Where?

You are not answering my queries. Where in Scripture does it say there will be 100 trumpet blasts at the end before and including the last trumpet? And who is making these blasts?

Scripture?

This is bordering on the ridiculous. You cannot substantiate any of your claims. You are all just hitting us with Pretrib buzz phrases you have been taught. Where do you get these "100 trumpet blasts" in Revelation or Scripture?

Where do you get these "100 trumpet blasts" in Revelation or Scripture? You seem to make it up as you go. With your ad-hoc mode of interpretation you could literally make the Bible say whatever you want it to - and you do. It hurts my head reading your extra-biblical speculations and man-made...

This is all gibberish unsupported by Scripture. You have nothing but what you have been taught.

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How about presenting hard clear Scripture instead of your crytic evasive posts? After all, this is a Bible forum. People are watching on. They are seeing your lack of biblical evidence.

I presented 2 lengthy posts yesterday, and you did your usual - totally avoided them. It is a waste of time engaging with you 3.

This infantile behavior is hard to deal with on an adult forum. When are you going to actual address the biblical arguments presented by others and stop the pettiness? My only regret is that I didn't come across this discussion and the pettiness and avoidance of you 3 when i was a Pretribber...

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I know it might not be popular with these 3, but, I think there should stricter parental supervision online in our day.

The scary reality is: this is what is going on in their heads. It is all mumbo-jumbo.

I wonder why? That is what the text teaches. There are no survivors. There is no tribulation period. That is why you cannot show it. That is why you refuse to tell us how long your trib is. You have nothing in the text to support your thesis. Quite the opposite. It forbids your thesis. We all...