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Pride and jealousies: Now what stops this simple organic way from meeting in unity is the pride of men together with envies and jealousies. Not every man is anointed to teach and lead the assembly. So then the Spirit of Cain is very present in the churches. As God chooses his Abels...the Cains...

My experience of church life has brought me to embrace a spiritual and organic form where there is order...but not control. Freedom of speech..freedom in the Spirit. How can the Spirit be free to speak if there is no freedom of speech in the church assembly? So to some this is taking things...

Greetings to all. I thought to put up a biblical...yes biblical...description of what the fellowship of Christ should look like. And I wish also to add in my own experience of that. ;) 1 Cor. 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine...

You mean protestants. And being a protestant means you can judge others as not as saved as you. I know what humans do with religious ideologies. I study history. I think your reasoning is backwards...I think protestants will fare worse because they justify themselves. But a Pharisee doesn't...

This is all circular reasoning. Of course God gives us the power to walk like Jesus by His mercy. He doesn't want us to remain sinners so He gives us the grace to overcome as Jesus overcame? But that's not how you read it. You read grace and mercy to be an ongoing forgiveness for ongoing sin...

Logic and reason: Now some see these as being bad. But to go against logic and reason is to be illogical and unreasonable. The same goes for sanity...the lack thereof is insanity. We are to be sober minded. How many times does it say that Paul reasoned with people from the word? We are to go...

I invite you then to my new thread..on "mind loops." The problem with indoctrination is the way the bible is used...like alcohol to an alcoholic. So then with brainwashed people the bible is useless. They have a loop that decides what is right and familiar...anything unfamiliar is...

Yes. Most religious people are in the wilderness of the mind. And you can see it so easily. And they assume you are also in the same wilderness. So they close their minds to remain that way.

For me personally I tend to be fearless of the unknown...because my first experience of the great unknown was being baptized in the Spirit. So I have a HOME base with God that doesn't get shaken. Not that I haven't been fooled by people or a spirit maybe a time or two. But the deviation is very...

I think that love paves the way for understanding and knowledge. If you are in a good body relationship and a brother speaks to you from love. Then that face to you becomes familiar...not unknown but known. And if the message he brings is unknown...the known brother can help that message to at...

A classic religious mind loop comes with the query "are you saved"??? That loop is so irksome because you realize that there is not much behind it. It is a mindless statement so often that is only ready to hear dogmatic answers. No mystery...nothing spiritual...no heavenly interference. Just...

I'm not indoctrinated so you are barking up the wrong tree. You have it exactly backwards. Marks is confused and has a pathological necessity to be passive aggressive. Please go to my thread on "mind loops" and perhaps you can become freed yourself from these circular ideas you have.

What can be in the realm of the known for one person can be in the realm of the unknown in another. In fact this is on purpose! God shows different things to different people so we might learn from one another. The devil wants to put an end to people sharing things and coming to the perfect...

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that...

I can't go deep enough here to fix your circular reasoning...since you are also confusing holiness and righteousness. God can forgive righteousness issues...but holiness issues demand a swift justice. So then re-read (if you care to) the differences I listed...since you are not understanding any...

Amen! And thank you for that testimony and confirmation. May the Lord take us deeper into His confidence! :)

The dialectic. Our brains have two hemispheres. We are wired in our minds to see things 2 ways...the known and the unknown. Order and chaos. We are hard-wired to react to danger and chaos by trying to make order out of things. That's how we can try figuring things out. A healthy mind is...

I know the drill. In order to deny the truth of God you make 2 brides. And you use strawman arguments to erase truth from the bible/ But you just need to look more closely and deeply. I suggest you try my new thread on "mind loops". I'm hoping to help people out of circular reasoning.

it's always been that way. Not all of national Israel are the Israel of God...just a remnant. Likewise the redeemed among the nations...just a remnant of these. But God gets to showcase...by dividing the people according to ethnicity...His ways. And He upholds both the law and grace. But very...

We could call the mind loops that are instilled in us through propaganda...circular reasoning. And how much is this pathological conditioning the basis for much of what we believe about the bible? Life is circular...as in..the circle of life. But our minds can be set free from circular...