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WRONG again. The language used at Florence may sound harsher - but it absolutely falls in line with Extra Ecclesiam Nula Salus. This is about the Church's understanding of what constitutes the person's the votum or desire. If a person's implicit desire is to conform himself to the Truth - then...

Your statement above in RED is a gigantic contradiction. You can't lose your salvation - but you CAN throw it away?? That is the SAME thing.

WRONG. First of all - the "heretics and schismatics" being referred to are APOSTATE CATHOLICS. These are people who knew the truth and rejected it. Paragraphs 846 and 847 of the Catechism, which are a sumation of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus (Outside the Church tere is NOT Salvation) are in...

Ummmmm, I was arguing against your false statements, namely : "salvation is a one-time event" "You can't lose salvation" What I did was to show you that Scripture PROVES that both of those statements are wrong.

Nope - YOUR problem is that you don't know what the Catholic Church is. Allow me to educate you . . . YOU and many others on this forum incorrectly use the term "RCC" or "Roman" Catholc Church to refer to the ONE Catholic Church. "Roman" or "Latin" simply refers to ONE of about TWENTY...

First of all - you CAN'T make a similar list regarding the Catholic Church because we have unity of doctrine. If you are going to attemp to list the beliefs of fallen away dissident groups - they are NOT part of the Catholic Church. They are in effect, Protestants. Secondly, that quote from St...

Once AGAIN - that's not what the Bible says. As I have shown you at least FOUR times now: - We receive the inbitial grace to believe which saves us (Rom. 5:1, 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8). - We are sanctified throughout our lifetime and are told that we are BEING saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 7:1, Phil...

Tell me which Catholic doctrines have been changed.

God can and DOES use anybody He desires to do His will. He can use an atheist scientist to cure a disease - just as easily as He used the wicked Pharoah to deliver His people. It's not up to YOU or anybody else to decide who He will use.

And there you go AGAIN arguing in circlces because we ALREADY coverd this. It's NOT about "earning points" or being "good enough". We'll NEVER be good enough on our own. We are saved by God's grace. We must cooperate (sunergos/1 Cor. 3:9, 2 Cor. 6:1) with that grace in order for it to have an...

Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not. Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not. Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not. Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not. Some believe in doctrine of “once saved...

The CHURCH is your teacher. That's what Christ Himself commissioned the first leaders of the Church to do: Matt. 28:19-20 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THAT I COMMANDED...

The Catholic Church is NOT a "human" institution. It was instituted by Jesus Christ, who is GOD - 2000 years ago. Which part of that statement do you have difficulty with? We have writings from the earliest of time that attest to this, such as 1st century Bishop and student of the Apostle...

"Pieces" of verses? I didn't give you "pieces" of anything - I gave uyou entire passages in CONTEXT. Let's recap: - As I showed you before - Jesus warns us in Matt. 5:22-29 that there are other sins that will lead us to hell - if we don’t repent of them. - He also taught that some sins will be...

I don't know what your problem is - but post #668 was posted by @Marymog - NOT me. Now - can we get back to the topic of discussion?? To say that Jesus built more than ONE Church is a fallacy. To say that you can reject His ONE Church, which is his very Body (Col 1:18, Acts 9:4-5) and the...

Nope. I fully understand that people can make typos when responding to multiple posts. If that's ALL you have - then your case is weaker than I thought . . . It is utter man-made wackiness to teach - as YOU have done - that Christ's Church isn't the fullness of Christ or that it is merely in...

Once again - your problem is that you comnpletely ignore ALL of the other verses in Scripture that show that even the staunchest believers can fall away by their own doing and be LOST (Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1...

And for YOUR version of Scripture to be ytrue - Jesus Christ would have to be a liar when He guaranteed that His Church would NOT fall into apostasy and succumb to darkness (Matt. 18:16). As for Tradition - you are lying when you say that Catholics "prefer" it over Scripture. The Bible itself...

That's the problem with anti-Catholics. You guys actually believe that verses like 1 John 5:16-17 and Matt. 5:19 were written in a vacuum and are not related to ANY other verses. The Holy Spirit used MANY writers to convey the Gospel message and we glean a clearer understanding when we see the...

NOT sure what you're talking about - but Saul was bent on destroying the Church - NOT defending it. But that same man, who later wrote under the inspuiration of the Holy Spirit called Chriat's CHURCH, the "Pillar and foundatin of truth" (1 Tim. 3:15). I'm not "deceived" about that. Jesus...