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Hey John..no worries. You are free to discuss or not...if you are asked ...it's your call brother, I already mentioned this in my post #12...so it would/wil not be derailing anything here. :) I heard more from Preston Eby than yourself on this subject. But like I say, I couldn't make...

Amen Nancy...well at least it was in seeking God's Truth...and not for being beaten and scared from the pulpit about hell. :)

Sorry I still find this confusing. It seems on one side you are saying we were delivered from the consequence of breaking the law ( via Adam) But on the other hand you are still saying that we have to keep the commandments/law. I asked how well is this working for you? God sent Jesus because...

Thank you...more good thoughts. I hadn't thought of his knowing God at close quarters ...and then choosing mutiny ...TREASON!! That does throw a different light on it all. So, after all , he is already done and dusted. I do know that we also have on this Site some who do not see Satan as...

Thanks Chris. Did not know that. :( So...just of interest...did all of you who posted see the tags I put into the OP in your ALERTS ? Or did you like Hidden In Him...just stumble onto the thread by accident? I just presumed a tag always gave an Alert!! :oops:

Wow...some good thoughts here... :) That is another good one... If as @ScottA said ( and it sounds good)... that it was all 'done and dusted before the foundation of the world'...Yes,good question, Why indeed will man have to judge angels all over again, if indeed judgement has already been...

I had not thought of that...I guess so... Another thought I have had is ..If his job description is to be the Accuser, the Tempter, the Adversary....he has been as it were a "faithful tool" therefore done his job well. ...and I am sure you can see where my mind is going from there....? ? ...

You said:- "But those who can not die can not be redeemed. " That is why I wondered what law the heavenly bodies come under. Satan was not under our law when he fell...nevertheless God judged him... When it says in 1 Cor 6:3 " Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that...

very good thoughts...I had never thought of the "man died for man" line..it makes good spiritual sense.

Then you will really see what the Left has in store for the world...be careful what you wish for my friend. The worst is yet to come...

What is making Nancy dizzy...I didn't see anything!! :(

So you and all the other followers keep all the commandments do you? So how come you and the SDA can all do it, but the poor idiots who had to use the blood of bulls and goats ....could not keep God commandments so God sent His Son? Amazing! " For what the law could not do, in that it was...

The person who calls them self TheHolyBookEnds You can start at June 12 and read all his posts . But if you never keep or believe in Sundays as the majority of Christians do...but you keep the Sabbath as the SDA do, then you are quite safe...no worries...you aren't choosing the Mark of the...

In a post I just read @Philip James said :- It obviously made me smile....but then I thought...well is that at all possible? If he repented could he be saved? My first thought is...As the blood of Jesus was shed for mankind...then it is not possible. Yet as he 'fell' before the...

What a wonderful thought to dell upon! Great is our God. Satan and his hoards could see Him...but God wanted a people who would love Him "by faith"..unseen, but heard. If God had not made us firstly spirit and secondly flesh...we could not have heard Him...we heard though our...

Excellent post @Heb 13:8 ~ .~ .

@aspen often speaks of dualism ...but I have never really understood what he is saying. :oops:

I am with @Heb 13:8 here BOL. Obedience is not essential for salvation....but it is essential for standing in the place of the Overcomer. ( Rev 3) I have found....that People that fight tooth and nail saying that we must do this, that or the other...do not have faith in the Perfect...

Totally agree. That line of teaching has done great damage...woe unto him who first delivered that terrible lie. Many churches still preach it!!!

@Mayflower No bbyrd009 is not a Muslim...( he is a mixture of a lot of things! :) ) Stranger is just saying that because bbyrd009 does have many Muslim friends and also feels strongly against some of us who are tired of supporting with out tax $$ Especially here in Canada...and say as much...