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Obviously, many of us who used to be Pretrib are concerned at the 2nd chance theology of Pretrib that is deceiving people. Also, the delusion that Christians will escape persecution.

Where in Scripture teaches a rapture of the Church, followed by seven-year tribulation, followed by a third coming of the Lord?

Do you believe in a 7-years trib following that? Do you believe in a 3rd coming?

You have no clue what you are talking about. You deny the future coming of Christ. You deny the truth. I have no time for heresy or heretics. That is what you are and what you promote. You need to repent!

And who do you think doesn't believe this?

What are you talking about? Can you not discuss theology without this inflammatory rhetoric? So, do you believe in a rapture of the Church followed by a 7-years trib followed by a 3rd coming?

Get your theology right before lecturing others. Where is "rapture" in Bible? It says "caught up." This is what happens at the end of the world.

It doesn't matter what you think. It doesn't matter what I think. The text speaks for itself. Your theology always seems to be built upon your personal opinion. That is totally inadmissible, especially when the inspired text says the opposite to what you are alleging.

Revelation 19:11-16: “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he...

Hello! All of these passages prove Amil and all forbid Premil. They show a climactic destructive finality to Christ's return. Nowhere in Revelation 20 does it mention Jesus reigning with a rod of iron for 1000 years. That is another example of you adding on to Scripture. That is what Premils do...

Where in Revelation 20 or anywhere else in the New Testament does it say "the goat infestation is not an open sore, but a hidden disease. It is being kept under control. Goats are not given full vent to their inner sin impulses. They are governed as by a rod of iron"?

So, your millennium is indeed infested with billions of goats, as I alleged? It is sin-cursed and death blighted? You agree with what I have alleged, even though it is the opposite picture that you wish to present. This age of Aquarius is obviously a mega-delusion. What i presented was in fact...

I am (of course) referring to the claims made by yourself that I presented in quotes. So, are the billions of wicked (Gog and Magog) who rise to an incredible number as the sand of the sea in your future millennium saved or lost (sheep or goats)?

Please quote the rapture detail in Revelation 3 and 4? I do understand your reluctance. But the burden of proof is on you. You made the claim. So, Revelation 8-19 is not a period of tribulation but of just total destruction until your 4th coming happens in Revelation 19?

How can you come out with nonsense like this when everyone knows from reading Rev 20 that the millennium is overrun at the end by the wicked as the sand of the sea by billions of satanists?

Oh. Really? So there is a secret rapture somewhere in Revelation 4-5, followed by a trib period followed by a 3rd coming in Revelation 14 for Israel, followed by a another trib period, followed by a 4th coming in Revelation 19, followed by a future millennium, followed by a 5th coming for all...

Twisting what I said does not advance your argument, it actually weakens it. It shows that you do not grasp what I am saying or that you deliberately want to twist what I am saying. What is am saying is: Premils reject the crucial principle of corroboration - interpreting Scripture with...

Please remember: it is you that presented this detail as being biblical. I am simply requesting the biblical basis of your assumption. So far, you have come up with nothing. Can you present any Scripture that comes close to identifying this with a period after this age ("the last days") and...

Are you saying that the rapture does not happen until Revelation 14?

That is not Him coming in majesty and glory to the sky when every eye shall see Him. That is not the general resurrection when all will bow the knee and confess Jesus Christ as Lord. That is not the wicked being completely eliminated. That is not the bondage of corruption ending (namely death...