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No end of subject matter here. Good to see you still kicking.

One reason I see that Jerusalem cannot be Babylon is that the powers spoken of in the NT are global in their impact. The first and second beasts in Revelation 13 are global powers... Their administrations have global effects... Babylon is the same. First Beast... KJV Revelation 13:3-4, 7 3 And I...

Most Christians have such a warped understanding of the character of the God they profess to love, it is a gargantuan miracle anyone comes to Him at all as a result of some Bible studies I've seen. God often simply by passes the teacher and convicts the person of sin despite the often erroneous...

I'm always doing that. Get half way through a post on my phone then a stray finger hits the "post reply" button. This untimely event then warrants a quick edit, but in the meantime it gets read... Pity posts aren't uplifted from the thread while edits are made.

The above had a long edit so suggest reading again for update.

So I haven't read every single contribution to this thread, because after the first two pages I had seen enough to realize that most here are overlooking the basics. There are three basic points I think we need to cleave to in communion with understanding prophecy. Everything under discussion...

But you know this event, the descent of the new Jerusalem, and the creation of the new earth, takes place at the end of the 1000 years right?

Nice to see you and I agree on something:)

@bbyrd009 nice to see you back my friend.

Brilliant.

@kcnalp please my friend, don't fear that we would determine nasty things against you, disassociate ourselves from you, speak words that would offend or invite others to malign or bring prejudiced charges against you, just because we believe eternal torment is heresy. Far from it. We love Jesus...

OT never overrules the NT? Are you saying in other words that the OT, when perfectly clear, cannot be trusted because you think the NT overrules the old? That the OT wasn't as inspired as the NT? That the OT and the NT contradict each other?

So posting scriptures without any explanation as to how you view them isn't much help in getting to know you. So I have to keep asking what may seem like the same question over and over. How do you reconcile the concept of a Trinity God being everywhere, yet one of the Trinity members "coming"...

Okay. So there is the Father speaking to His Son, let us make man in our image. Does that mean that they are both omnipresent?

@Truth7t7 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might...

Before getting all facetious and all, best to make sure you're reading and understanding my posts properly. Your reply is quite irrelevant to our conversation, and not something I disagree with. In fact, I don't disagree with any of the scriptures you've posted. And none of them contradict what...

@Truth7t7 this thread is about the second coming. Who's coming?

They don't say what you want them to say... That the Trinity God is everywhere. What you are basically alluding is that nine of the three members of the Godhead can individually separate themselves physically from one another. We all know they are one in character, in purpose, in righteousness...

I am what would be called in most Christian churches, an annihilationist. I make absolutely no apologies for that. To anybody. For two prime reasons. 1. Any alternative, particularly but by no means exclusively, eternal torment, utterly disgusts me. Of all so called Christian doctrines...

That doesn't support omnipresence. In the book of Daniel the Almighty Father was seen seated in the heavenly sanctuary. As also was recorded in Revelation. KJV Daniel 7:9-10, 13 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the...