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  1. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    You could post some and we'll go through them. A couple at a time please. Carpet bombing is rather crude. ITMT perhaps you could discover what the word BELIEVE means in the original Greek. PS I'm sorry this got all cut up. Something went wrong with the program. Sorry.
  2. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Cute. And how do you come to all this? I suppose you know about eisegesis because you practice it very well. Jesus PLAINLY STATES why those in Matthew 7:22-23 will not get into heaven. There is no talk there about believers.... HE plainly said: Matthew 7:19-20 Jesus said...
  3. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    What do you mean AS SOME WOULD SUPPOSE? Here how Matthew 7:24-27 starts....maybe you missed it: 24"Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25"And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds...
  4. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So obedience is a work. OK And of what faith are you? Not Christian that's for sure. Salvation is not achieved by works. So who's post are you reading? How about doing God's will in order to REMAIN saved? Here is what Paul states: 1 Corinthians 6:9 Or...
  5. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Practicing typing.....good. For the benefit to others.....wish you wouldn't since you have nothing of substance to say.
  6. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @Eternally Grateful page 2 I think you need to read my verses above and preferably the entire New Testament. Could you post some verses that state that we are NOT to do good works because it would be self-righteous of us? Thanks. What does practicing righteousness make you? It does not...
  7. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Apparently, there's something about the NT which you do not understand. Your reply is very long....will do my best. So if faith produces works/deeds..... and THERE ARE NO WORKS/DEEDS.... is that person truly saved? Do you understand that I'm BEYOND the salvation point, and so was Paul, and...
  8. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Interesting post GP. I just happened to see it. Averting punishment is not a bad reason to obey. But God loves us with a never-ending love,,,an agape love which is a Godly love that we most certainly cannot even understand - although we are told to agape love everyone. The best reason to obey...
  9. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I don't intend to address your arguments GP. There are 3 types of law in the OT. I'm not here to teach anyone anything. You could look this up yourself. The MORAL LAW will never be abolished. The other 2 are, if for no other reason, out of pure necessity. I agree. I agree. How does one...
  10. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So obedience is a work? So believers in Jesus are not supposed to be obedient? What does GOOD DEEDS ARE WROUGHT IN GOD mean to you? Here is what Jesus said about good deeds and evil deeds: Matthew 7:21 21"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who...
  11. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Then why are you posting to me? You enjoy wasting your time??
  12. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Agreed. But how could our good works be rooted in pride when it's Jesus Himself that states we are to do them? "Let your light shine before men"..... what else could this possibly mean?? How does our "letting our light shine" be prideful? FAITH ALONE. There's no such animal in the NT...
  13. GodsGrace

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    So BY THAT GENERATION,,,,,you mean the Jews? The RACE of the Jews.
  14. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Exactly! Those who have done good come forth unto righteousness. Those who have done evil unto judgment. I don't see any mention of believers or non-believers or saved or unsaved. I see good deeds being spoken of and evil deeds. Do we think Jesus didn't mean what He said? Let's look at John...
  15. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    EG, Because YOU have never heard anyone say they could still be sinful and still be saved,,,,does not mean that it doesn't happen. Point blank question so I can deal with your post better: Are you a believer in sinless perfection? Do you note a difference between: SIN LIVING IN SIN ?? I...
  16. GodsGrace

    if i wanted to become a catholic

    How does one practice idolatry if they don't teach it? A graven image mans you WORSHIP THE IMAGE. There are no images in the CC that are WORSHIPPED. I don't really see anyone praying, kneeling at a stature anymore like years ago when I was growing up - and probably you also. But the person...
  17. GodsGrace

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    Douggg Yes! He has yet to return....herein lies the entire problem and reason for this thread. So please clarify: In your 2nd paragraph.....do you mean that the fig tree represented the Jews at THAT TIME, in which case it would be right since Jerusalem WAS destroyed in 70AD. ??? But I don't...
  18. GodsGrace

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    Randy, I very much agree with you but it leaves so many problems. What do you think of the post just above to Spiritual where I state that perhaps the writers get Jerusalem conflated with the end times? Jesus didn't write anything down, so we have to trust what the writers wrote and it wasn't...
  19. GodsGrace

    the Olivet Discourse understood

    Thanks Spiritual You hit on the problem, of course.... THIS GENERATION shall not pass away UNTIL all these things come to pass. Yes, it can mean MY CONTEMPORARIES or THIS RACE as you've stated. Matthew 16:28 is also problematic to me. 28"Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are...
  20. GodsGrace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Well, EG, I remember you from when I used to post here but can't remember your exact position. I do agree with what you state above.... However your first paragraph is not 100% correct because I've read, with my own eyes, posters stating that they could sin and still be saved. (I mean a life...