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It's too bad you think what I have been saying is "very different", because this is where I get it from: Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and...

What--who did I say?

The Path to All Truth: It is understanding the difference between the finite terms of this world and that of eternity and the kingdom of God, that is referred to by Paul with the need of "rightly dividing the word of truth." This he said to advance our understand ("knowledge shall increase") in...

:( Still no scripture quotes of flesh and bone in heaven. Go figure.

Notice Readers: There are no scriptures quoted in the above post "of flesh and bone" in heaven. ...'cause there aren't any.

The matter is "life and death." Thank you for pointing that out! "The flesh returns to the dust", but some here are preaching against this truth from God. For dust you are, And to dust you shall return. Genesis 3:19 Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, Or the golden bowl is...

Squirm, squirm.

I understand just fine. You, on the other hand, are off on many things. You are not reconciling any of your above post with the rest of scripture: God is spirit. God is perfect. Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect. That which is born of the flesh is flesh...

This should not surprise you. Paul did likewise, and even taught Timothy to do the same. But it is no small matter to argue against the clear statement made by Christ in John 14:19.

No...I am not "reading too much into various passages." That is not at all what I am doing-- Jesus flat out bottom lined against what you are saying, and I have quoted Him...and you do not receive it. That does not make this a discussion-- I am telling you, and this I am doing because you have...

I understand, but somehow you have entered into this discussion not perceiving that it is about whether or not the flesh inherits the kingdom of God. It does not...and that has been what I have been addressing. But, now you contend with those who error regarding the flesh. That is against the...

To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Hebrews 9:28 The rest of what you refer to is not of this world or this present earth, but rather the new heaven and earth. As it is with Christ's return, it is not here on the old earth, but as He...

The discussion that you are commenting on is regarding whether of not the flesh inherits the kingdom of God. It does not. But now you also bring up other matters: Nor, as you assert, is there "soul" "sleep." "To be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord." 2 Corinthians 5:8 You...

The best that you have done is to pit other scriptures against those scriptures that I have given you that you have not acknowledged nor received, as if God's word could be against itself. You pick and choose only what suits you and your own doctrine, not reconciling all scripture. All the while...

No...but I am speaking plainly, repeating what is written and explaining it in truth. The error of "physical" putting on incorruptible, is not as you say as "over", but indeed as Paul said, it is "not...that body" at all, but "a new creation." Furthermore, we do not go to God bringing Him...

I wouldn't know about "Gnostic cults", but it is biblical to say the flesh is passing away--not inheriting the kingdom of God. You have some things completely backwards.

This one issue seems to be the crux of the problem. I'll reply to it separately: You, and indeed "learned scholars", seem to have unwittingly explained away the truth according to your own understanding. It appears you have made your own exception...which Jesus has not done. Above you explain...

For lack of understanding what is written, you speak against Christ who explained that spiritual body--not at all as flesh: The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.” John 3:8...

Before answering...let me just say in preface, that it was God who began revelation of Himself as One, and then Christ who prayed for Oneness again, not in spite of his having been manifest as a son of man and sending forth the Holy Spirit which we now refer to as the Godhead or Trinity, but...