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Hey, one less deception....well done! :)

The influence of the Spirit is always in the world in a subtle way. At first it begins by our conscience...the leftover hole that God fits into in us.... After we willingly submit to the Spirit in a greater and greater way. It must be remembered that all men have this same consciousness of...

Are you saying that because you selected the "right sounding" doctrines according to your preference, that that is the same as Jesus transforming you?

Please read what I posted. I think you responded too quickly and so you have not comprehended my position yet. :)

There is no need for conversion after death...since God will save whom He wills to. That means that many will be deemed as sheep (Mat. 25) because of how they treated others...specifically the brethren. The law of righteousness states that a person will live if they do what is right. So GOD...

The answer is easy...but people prefer to complicate things. Both Calvin and Arminius are taking one extreme which can only hold up when both ends are held up from the middle. That is the truth. Holiness is impossible without God. It is a gift. So God provides the purity. This looks like...

Actually eternal life is a kind of life. The location of that life is IN Jesus Christ. It is His life. So we can experience that life for varying lengths of time or not at all. This idea of putting everything into the future is what is robbing the church of victory in the present.

But you are making my argument for me. There is a deeper message that people easily miss due to a lack of understanding of spiritual things. It is like when Paul says...that I might know the power of His resurrection. Now a lot of people will think that means a bodily resurrection rather than...

When Jesus said to eat His body and drink His blood....do you think maybe there is a spiritual message attached to it? Or do you see a body as something to eat?

I was raised Catholic. Lapsed. Was saved by the lord. Walked in the wilderness of protestantism for 10 years....then the Lord called us out of the system.

With God faith comes first. Evidence comes after.

That's how religious product is peddled. You give the consumer of religion a choice among different flavours of theoretical dogmas...like at a supermarket. Then the person can choose the one that fits his/her lifestyle. After all didn't Jesus come to satisfy consumers?

Jack van Impe supporters by the look of it.

Ahh...very thoughtful of you :rolleyes: You are no doubt majoring in the minor errors and missing the truly big ones. And you sound proud of that minor accomplishment. Kind of like straining out gnats and swallowing camels. I think I would tire very quickly of your opinions on the matter....and...

There'a only room for one on the soapbox.

Man can't be blamed for the predicament he is in? That's an apologetic for humanism.

It's all in the text. reading comprehension is vital when dealing with the written word. One little word change and the whole meaning changes. You have just made excuses to not look mat the text with any kind of adult seriousness. So I leave you to your quick fixes.

Plop plop fizz fizz oh what a belief it is... :oops:

I have explained the meaning of the text but you will still follow a bad trail with bad reasoning. There's nothing else for it...remain in the dark if that is what is comfortable to you...

This thread based on a debate between you two is like two overweight and outta shape people arguing over who would make it into the olympics first. The first thing that goes out the window...is truth. IOW positions are being overstated by a pride of religion. We see the same sort of thing in...