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So you believe that what is true of darkness is also true of light, what is true of evil is also true of good, and what is true of the dead is also true of the living?

You have told me, and by your saying so, you have also told Paul and Jesus who's Spirit I have not betrayed. For you I will stop. But for those who have an ear, let them hear.

I gave you the scriptures you say are "no where." Obviously, they are simply like lost glasses to you, and you have not found them. Yet, I should hope. Keep seeking.

Those born [again] of the spirit. For which Paul explained: "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation." Hebrews...

You have presented much to be explained and some which is debatable or in need of correction. But it appears that the real issue that you wish to discuss, is that of predestination. I'll start there. Please, as we are all invited and characters portrayed in the parable, try to imagine being...

Those are the teachings of men. Sorry, but you have been deceived. First, the Holy Spirit, is God, and therefore has always been-- which has nothing to do with the OT or the New. If you will read again any reference to the Spirit of God in the OT, you will see that He "came upon". "moved"...

That is close, but I would and have drawn upon Paul's clarification of being "alive and remaining" (remaining in the world in the flesh, but walking in the spirit), is not yet gathered up to the Father, but that to live in this way is best defined as Paul defined it, saying, "for me to live is...

Now we're getting somewhere! Yes, just as there is division between death and life-- and that is what we are talking about. Jesus stands as the Last of those born of the flesh who lived until death before salvation came, and also as the First born of the spirit bringing forth many sons. He is...

Agreed. However, the issue that has come up, and the common misunderstanding of this passage, is that of the unified narrative that spiritually connects Paul's words of "dishonoring servants" to Jesus' "evil servants." Jesus does not say they lose their salvation but rather will suffer...

That is a nice way to put it, but Jesus was way more stern, saying He would "cut them in two and give them their portion with the hypocrites." From that one passage, that would certainly be the likely take. However, by the same spirit, that sent to him and us by another Helper, the Holy Spirit...

If there is no "rightly dividing the word of truth" ("no division") being preached-- it's another gospel, not of Christ.

No, not at all, Paul was indeed correct. And that is my point. Paul warned of those of this great house-- those Christians, who were either like gold or silver, or as wood or clay, some for honor and some for dishonor-- Which shares the same Spirit of Jesus' warning of the profitable servant...

Yes, and to elaborate... Even Paul told of his struggle to do what he willed to do, but did not. And this, I would and do suggest, no tell, is because those born [again] of the spirit of God have in fact...been "divided" for which Paul advise, no tells, us that we should rightly divide also the...

You misunderstand. I have only been referring to those two folds that Jesus said He must bring. Just as He said, "Israel" and "another fold." Neither of who's God is Satan.

I would also say to run from those teaching to continue in sin. But that is not what I said. Apparently, you misunderstood...and because you do, you are probably among those who are not "rightly dividing" the gospel...because they have not "heard" His voice. And these are those of whom He...

So then, state it clearly: Did Jesus not say that He has brought a "sword" which He warned would cause some to be "cut in two?" And did Paul not say that what Jesus brought should be "divided" or "rightly" "cut" or "handled", because there are those who do not do it and therefore misrepresent...

So...I can't tell whether you actually agree or disagree. You seem to want to object and ask why, apparently missing the very things that I gave already to support what I said. Then you go on to elaborate on the idea that I gave of pressing on, as if to agree. Nonetheless, what I said was not...

None of this is what Paul was saying. It's a complete misunderstanding...not by Paul, but those who try to apply literary knowledge to determining what he meant. God does not "Pre" anything. He is "the same yesterday, today, and forever." No...but rather, Paul was talking baby talk to babes...

That is all true, but you have not "rightly divided" that which pertains to the dead, from that which pertains to the living. This is the sword that Jesus said He brought to the world rather than peace. Indeed, many do not discover just what it is that He was referring to.

We’re fighting because Christ has divided those He must bring to the Father into two groups (Israel and “another fold”, meaning the gentiles), but preached the good news of the kingdom of God in one gospel narrative that according to the apostle Paul, must be “rightly divided”…and many...