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  1. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Both you and @ScottA need to read Luke 15:24 Do you suppose you know this parable and its teaching better than Jesus did? Here's what Jesus stated: For this son of mine was dead, and has come to life AGAIN, he was lost, and has been found. Do we all know what AGAIN means? Something is...
  2. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Jesus said it Cooper. Read The Prodigal Son carefully. If a person is saved and falls away from the faith and then week or years later is sorry and returns to the faith... don't you think God would take him back?
  3. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Good verse. But where does it state the Apostles were not saved BEFORE Jesus ascended? You mean if one of the Apostles died before the ascension they would not have been saved? Do you believe a person that comes to have faith in Jesus is not saved UNTIL he is baptized either by water or the...
  4. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Who keeps the man believing? I guess we'd have to discuss free will. Once a person is saved...do they lose their free will? I can't abandon God if I become angry with Him or decide He doesn't really exist for one reason or another? He keeps me saved even if I don't wish to be saved? Sounds a...
  5. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Whom should I put my trust in? Strong's Greek Lexicon? That is inspired then? Are you saying God speaks Greek? Are you saying I have to know Greek to be saved? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?? This is nonsense and I will not continue this conversation after this post. We will be judged by the life we...
  6. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    How about posting some scripture?
  7. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    What does IT IS FINISHED mean? What is finished?
  8. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Again with the works... :(
  9. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    I agree. And you should stop bringing up works because I never do. As to filthy rags...that verse is used so incorrectly - God DOES want our works (after salvation). But that's another thread and I won't get into it here.
  10. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    This was referring to the Jews themselves who denied Jesus was the Messiah. But you cannot deny that the Jews were SUPPOSED to kill Jesus... He was SUPPOSED to die... He told the Apostles He was going to die before he did. Matthew 16:21 Matthew 17:22-23
  11. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    I agree with what you've said. But you haven't replied to Colossians 1:21-23 which states that we will be presented before God holy.. IF WE CONTINUE in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and NOT MOVED AWAY from the gospel of hope. We must go by what is written in the N.T. by either...
  12. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    I agree with you. But I don't know what you mean by a "lapse of consecration". (highlighted above) We must have some type of security or we would not be able to live the joyful life Jesus said He came to bring us. I don't believe salvation is so easy to forfeit.... It has to do more with a...
  13. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    I wanted to say that your history is correct, However, I was speaking about what the APOSTLES taught, and those to whom THEY taught. This only goes up to about 300AD... then your history comes in, with which I agree. I had already answered that God does not undo salvation of a person... The...
  14. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    This is a dangerous teaching. And some sons do lose their inheritance. Analogies fall short. We should listen to what Jesus said regarding the Prodigal Son. Luke 15:24 The son was lost and had been saved AGAIN, Whe he Returned Home. The son was saved, lost, saved Again. Hear Jesus' teaching...
  15. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    So you believe the Apostles were not saved when they walked with Jesus ?
  16. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    How do you know this? I mean about WHEN Peter was saved... Tomorrow.
  17. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    @Enoch111 The above are doozies? They're straight out of the bible.
  18. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Good night Enoch. Try to be nice, as we Christians should be. John 13:35
  19. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    I never said God undoes a man's salvation. The man himself does that. One must be a believer AT DEATH to be saved. Not 20 years ago or 2 years ago. The N.T. is written in the present tense. Salvation and believing is always in the present tense.