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  1. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    PS See my post no. 631 regarding John 15.
  2. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    I don't care for the Greek. I'm not a theologian and neither are you EG. I trust the theologians that have correctly, and to the best of their ability with what is available to them, translated those manuscripts that have come down through the ages...including some new stuff they found. No...
  3. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Nice to be in such good company! Thanks.
  4. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Eternal life means forever. But the condition is that we must BELIEVE in Jesus for our salvation and not fall away from that belief. Revelation 2:4-5 But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the...
  5. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Oh really EG. Have you read Ephesians 2:8-9 NLT 8God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.
  6. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Agreed. Those who BELIEVE IN HIM will never die. BELIEVE, present tense. Agreed. But justification comes before sanctification - I think you know this and it's just a typo. If we are justified and sanctified we are saved. John wrote to show that Jesus is God. I think John wrote some verses...
  7. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Some of them believed it EG. What saved persons in the O.T. is the same thing that saves persons today... FAITH.
  8. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Do you care what is taught today? Or what the Apostles taught?
  9. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Don't answer to silly questions. Anyone reading along should be able to figure it out. If not....I don't really care. God knows...it's not necessary that you know.
  10. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Jesus died as an atonement or expiation. He did HIS part... Now we get to do ours. Acts 20:35 Paul speaking... 35And I have been a constant example of how you can help those in need by working hard. You should remember the words of the Lord Jesus: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
  11. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Do YOU understand what OSAS means? Think about it. I think we get it mixed up with eternal security... There's a difference. OSAS means we can NEVER forfeit our salvation...NO MATTER WHAT WE DO OR DO NOT DO. This is what those who believe it mean by it. A true Christian understands that his...
  12. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Jesus doesn't leave... the person leaves Jesus. 2 Timothy 2:12 If we endure we shall reign with Him If we deny Him, He also will deny us...
  13. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    It doesn't state there was no real life. You're reading into the test what it does not state. It says that a branch that does not produce fruit will be CUT OFF. It says "they" were already clean...already saved. BUT they MUST ABIDE in the vine. He says I AM THE VINE, YOU ARE THE BRANCHES. No...
  14. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Romans 8:38-39 38And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,p neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39No power in the sky above or in...
  15. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    F, John 15 is not about how not remaining in Jesus will cause our demise. John 15:1-6 1“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. 2He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. 3You...
  16. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    After justification comes sanctification. No sanctification, justification is also lost. Of course we are required to maintain our salvation. You like Romans 4? Which verse? Do you like Romans 1:5? 5through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith...
  17. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    What do works have to do with this? Why are works always brought up when speaking about OSAS. I believe in Eternal Security. As long as I believe in Jesus as my Savior, I am eternally saved. This is what the Christian church h as taught from the beginning... from the time of the Apostles. The...
  18. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    The problem is this G... It might seem popular today when listening to these preachers/teachers.... BUT The idea of OSAS did not appear in church teachings UNTIL the 1500s. The early theologians did NOT speak of OSAS.... The Apostles did not believe this and those the Apostles taught did not...
  19. GodsGrace

    Faith-based tattoo: as a result of one, did you ever talk with someone? (Poll included)

    Yes! It was at a home dinner. We talked a lot. They all seemed to love their tattoos and showed them to us. I think you're in that "business". You have nothing to fear!!
  20. GodsGrace

    "Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.

    Do you realize that this is an idea that was started with the reformation and specifically by Calvin? Read this: there are two species of calling: for there is an universal call, by which God, through the external preaching of the word, invites all men alike, even those for whom he designs the...