Search results

No! The word BEGOTTEN is not a good word to use because, as some here have stated, begotten means someone was "made" or "created" and this is not so. Begotten means the unique son of God. Jesus was begotten as a Son... But the SON, as the 2nd Person of the Trinity, as the WORD of God, always...

Good post... What came to mind is Jesus being King. He is: A King A Prophet A Priest A King because in the Davidic Covenant it's stated that a King will appear and be forever. Christian view of Davidic covenant[edit] Christian theologian John F. Walvoord maintains that the Davidic covenant...

Right. All 3 "Persons" are mentioned in both the O.T. and the N.T. Sometimes in reading we pass right by it...but it's there and the early theologians saw it and expounded on it. They were not wrong!

Amen to that!

We're only human creatures of His. What you state is OK I believe. We are finite and it's the best we can do.

Cooper, Yes, I'd have to agree that maybe the wording isn't the best. But HOW to explain it? I had to teach the Trinity to children, and I learned early on that no matter how it's explained, you run into one heresy or another. God is ONE BEING... IN that being, are 3 somethings... it can't be...

I think part of the problem is calling Jesus SON. And the other part is using that word I so dislike, BEGOTTEN.

I wonder sometimes why someone can accept the Trinity - however they might be able to understand it - and some deny it outright. They say it's from reading the bible and not seeing it represented there...but it IS there. So maybe it's a church teaching from some denomination? That would be my...

Agreed. John was very worried about gnosticism invading the church. When he writes: They left us because they were not of us... He was speaking about gnostics that realized they did not belong to the church. What you say about the gnostics is correct, of course. I'm not insisting that John was...

Beautiful post. What a blessing!

Except that Jesus always existed. HE IS THE WORD OF GOD. The WORD was with God from eternity past. The WORD became flesh. This flesh was called Jesus. Think about it. John 1:1

Jesus was resurrected from the dead. Moses was not. Saul was not. David was not. NO ONE else was. We Christians believe Jesus rose from the dead. Otherwise, he's just another guy. And a crazy one at that.

I think I already replied to this.... The following may be of help: Why Was Jesus Not Named Immanuel?

This is an important discussion and I'm willing... You say the Apostles were not trinitarians and this is the scriptural record. Could you post something to which I could reply? I will say that it SEEMS that the Trinity was not spoken of in scripture in a very clear way.... It was spoken of...

It's accepted Christian theology that God was, in effect, speaking to Himself. But Himself still was 3 Persons. The Holy Ghost always existed. And Jesus always existed but as the 2nd Person, OR as THE WORD, as John described Him in John 1...IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD (Jesus is the Word) AND...

Every denomination seems to be involved with this idea. I'll have to say that (until this Pope) the CC held steady on its beliefs. It's moral beliefs I mean. It would not agree to female priests, homosexual marriage, acceptance of gender issues, etc. In this sense I can't agree that it's a...

This is a good post and it'll have to wait till tomorrow, it's just too late and you've said a lot. I agree about the mindset of westerners... I agree about the gnostics... and I like how you described living what one believes.... to be cont'd.

Why Was Jesus Not Named Immanuel?

LOL Yeah. I liked your representations there!