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Arete in Greek...or virtue in it's English translation is fighting spirit or manly courage. Do a bit of research. Look up what the Greeks thought of arete. I do wish people looked deeper into things....

I guess I'm not surprised that we aren't on the same page on this. The inner man is not our spirits...although he has access to the spirit part of us. We communicate with God in our spirits...which is part of our hearts. The holiest place in the our hearts. Our hearts are like the tabernacle in...

If you read Romans 6, 7,and 8...you will get the idea of what I'm saying. I have to run now...but I'll get back to you! :)

It takes wisdom to not always try correcting a person who we see is in error. better to pray as you say....and wait for the right moment that is prompted by the Spirit. :) A good judgment is key...but the greater part of that is wisdom. Of course on a forum such as this, there are many...

To be victorious in an army it helps to have a good morale (hope) and forward momentum (practicing faith). If we sow to the Spirit we shall also reap of the Spirit. Once we get the ball rolling we need to keep up the momentum as one who is always moving forward has no reason to falter. It is as...

An exhortation to be courageous perhaps?

Which part of us is to be a living sacrifice? The natural man. We are to count all things in the natural as loss that we may win Christ. Does this mean that the natural man is evil? No...but it means that our natural faculties and efforts are INSUFFICIENT to the standard of the grace of...

Man, I will have to check out these Maori terms on whakapedia. ;)

Again, you are drawing the wrong conclusions here. We are to use a righteous judgment. God judges but is not judgmental. You are not understanding that many Christians are building upon their foundations with improper materials. You are also missing the true condition of the inner man...who...

The natural man is to be broken in order to let the life of Jesus come out. Christians have the potential for a spiritual walk... The natural man is the normal order of things...and the source of power of immature believers who have not yet been broken by a deeper work of the cross. You are...

I have a known a number of believers who thought that now that they have been awakened to the truth...and even operated in the spiritual gifts...that they are always walking in the Spirit. But what has changed in this condition is that they have added on a spiritual persona on top of a carnal...

I can't think of one. We follow apostolic tradition as we can.

How can you get your gear to a gig in that?:cool:

This is very good. Israel is to the world as the inner man is to us. God is looking to enter in and grant life to us inwardly.

Amen. The natural man carries the death of Jesus (His cross) so that the life of Jesus can penetrate to the inner man.

If the inner man gets help from outside (God) then there is no more use for the natural man. So it is to the benefit of the natural man to keep the inner man weak and dependent...but on himself. So this is the SELF-confident, SELF-sufficient nature at work. The natural man is really connected...

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I think it is important to get out of the downward spiral ourselves first...then we can try helping others out of theirs. :) I feel like I had to go through a number of conversions to get where I am now. Each time I thought I was done or at least on the...

You think that the perfect is the bible? Paul is talking about the new age to come. Why would the bible supercede the bible and create a new new testament? You have invented a new undocumented testament? When was the NEW testament put out of date?

‘Forbid not to speak in tongues’ (1 Cor. 14:39)

I am trying to reach the inner man...not the rebellious outer man. I don't pick on the outer natural man unless he tries to teach something as if the truth resided there. The inevitable result is to get the flesh into a big snit. The alternative is worse...to let the natural man dictate the...