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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Simple! It is being fulfilled today with the NT Church. The relationship between the Old Testament saints and the New Testament saints is always depicted as a unitary whole, even though these two groupings possess very unique characteristics. We must remember, they are seen at different stages...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where does it say the DOTL is anything other than a climactic day that no wicked survives and which ushers in the NHNE?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    One of the biggest difficulties many of us have with Premil, and which was one of the reasons for some of us abandoning it was its mistaken fixation with natural apostate Christ-rejecting Israel, restoring the old covenant, and with real estate in Middle East (that is about to go up in smoke)...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Again, you cannot help but twist what others say to you because for you to address what they said would expose your beliefs. No one said or belives you invented Rev 20, you invented your understanding of it. I will repeat what you avoided - namely my whole post. That is what you do! I see a...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please stop avoiding: 1. Which OT prophets, if any, do you consider definitely corroborate the Premillennial interpretation of Revelation 20 that there are two distinct physical resurrection days (the first for the righteous, the second for the wicked) separated by a literal 1000 years+? 2...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So where is your evidence? Your MO is to imagine that if you state something then that makes it a fact. Seriously! You obviously think too highly of yourself. Scripture overrides your faulty opinions all the time. The Bible forbids your claims. That is because you have zero corroboration in the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I see a distinct, troubling and ongoing pattern in your (and Premil) theology: when the evidence in Scripture blatantly negates, contradicts and exposes your thesis you conveniently invent a second additional entity, event or period to allow your teaching to fit. Premil does this all the time...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    We have showed you for years but you insist on being obnoxious, difficult and inflammatory. You are doing nothing to advance your cause or gain respect. There has always been a true believing Israel (the Israel of Israel), that which is God's redeemed - His elect. We see this in Romans 9:6-13...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Nowhere in the Old Testament or the New Testament supports your interpretation of Revelation 20. It is a totally non-corroborative theory. Neither the Law, the prophets, Christ or the New Testament writers, taught a future age in between this age and the age to come, between time and eternity...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I've never heard anything more ridiculous and unscriptural in my life. This is exactly what Zionism produces. See what the Bible teaches rather than what you have been taught. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Sadly, he is the real RT. He really doesn't care that it is wrong and offends you. His aim is to get under your skin.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Exactly. This debate is largely over bar the shouting. They have lifted the white flag.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It seems like name-calling has become the default response for Premils and their means of dealing with the Amil arguments. So telling! You have clearly nothing to rebut my post. Your silence is deafening.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yeah, right? Where is it? Nowhere! That is why you cannot produce it. This is the usual evasive Premil response.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Remember, the Pharisees made the same mistake as Premils make today in regard to natural Israel. The Pharisees were filled with racial pride, consumed with a sense of national superiority, obsessed with religious rituals and temple ordinances and fixated with earthly real estate instead of the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This battle has been a long (and comprehensively) won. Stop fighting the Scriptures. We are the true children of Abraham, not ethnic Israel. We are the children of promise, not ethnic Israel. We are true Israeli citizens, not ethnic Israel. We are the circumcision, not ethnic Israel. We are the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is one of many examples of butchering the text and rejecting a literal interpretation. Pick a direction and you will see how troubling premillennialist hermeneutics are. Think of how many passages teach a clear an explicit climatic coming of Christ and they dismiss them. Think about how...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    You said other threads. Where is your evidence?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Says who? Where is your evidence?