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Good posts @Naomi25 and @aspen Both good points made. :)

@GodsGrace If you don't like discussing what you believe in a thread..use the Inbox. :) No rush...I have to work tomorrow anyway... ...later....H

But, isn't that what purgatory is all about. The cleansing Fire? I actually thought that Catholics did believe that everyone was finally saved at the end.. ( if enough candles were lite and prayers prayed. ) Im surprised that you are so strongly against it. I don't understand the working...

Wow...@amadesu I love reading those kinds of stories. It just show us that we cannot ever put God in a box. He will move as , when, and through whoever He likes. And often never does things the same way twice. In the car Dave said to me yesterday . "We use to say - "what's the key to...

Okay Rolly...go for it! But set the video camera up first. :)

Haha! This subject seems to be bleeding into many posts right now! o_O Obviously I "like" your two priest friends. ;) As for the bolded last line of your quote...do you believe in the "forever" eternal hell spoken of by the majority ? ( for me, if it is forever , it is not longer...

Ha! I have just finished writing the post above. We haven't chatted like this for a long time. :) If you are both talking about some being elected for salvation and some not elected for salvation then I agree...in that I disagree with that. He came to call ALL to Himself...not just some...

Twinc can answer for himself. I believe ( and I may be wrong...I will wait and see) but, I believe in The Fire..God Himself. I believe we all came from Him...all life comes from God...without Him there is no life..and I believe we will all return to Him who gave... God being a Consuming...

Yes, Jesus Christ is and has always been The Word Of God...Made flesh. The Book tells God's Plan from Gen to Rev.

Dave served 3 years in the Greek v Turks squabble in Cyprus in the 1950's He said that figs straight from the tree are nothing like the figs in the store. He was addicted to them out there. :) ( but too many are not so good for a person!!! Ha! )

...there is never any uncertainty with God....but man, if he is wise, will always second guess his own interpretation of what God has said. We would all be fools to not agree with The Book....but we are fools if we are so sure of our own interpretation of what God said.

I don't see any evil...but its sure not positive. The fig tree relates to the nation of Israel so we understand how the fig tree is often used in the Scriptures to symbolically represent Israel. It says - He saw a fig tree with leaves...was hungry and He came to the tree expecting to find...

Amen. I agree....

This is an interesting conversation you have here with Stranger. I have been following along. The best picture I see in scripture is:- If there is no such thing as non-elect...why were not all of the tribe of Levi chosen ( elect) as the Priesthood? And why could only Levi as priests , if...

So why hang around? :D Easier said than done eh?

Well , I sure cant disagree with that! Very true.

Thank you Mark. But you are wasting your time, as am I. They are too lazy to really check it out and sweat blood to find the truth. But, are so "sure" that what they are spitting out to " new learner" is correct. But, praise God...The Day will reveal it.

I agree...We are not all stupid...we can "get the point"...without miles of words to plough through. :rolleyes: But, each to their own....just not my choice of "talking". Just 'make you point' and then move over..... "next!"

Yep, since 2011. But if I obey the rules....I'm doing pretty well for 76 I never thought I'd live this long...( bad childhood weaknesses ) So, we can do nothing but keep praising the Lord! Yay! :)

Well, the way I look at it is. I know what I believe ...yet what I believe I always hold lightly....we are but human. So many people are so dogmatic and sure that they are so right in all that they have chosen to believe!! Wherever man is, there is always the potential for error. But few...