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And yet (even here) there seems to be a rift of nonacceptance toward Protestants.

Thank you for the compliment, but the correct word is not "twister" but "confound." But close enough. Yet, it is not I who deserve the credit, God does, for it was He who twisted/confounded all language at Babel. As such, the terms are that "it must be discerned spiritually." Which, if you are...

Oh, it was there alright. Let me help you with that. Below in Red/Bold:

The Bible, i.e. the scriptures, only: Matthew 16:17-18 NKJV "Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church...

The "Death by paralysis" that I referred to was that of the "wormwood" passage; not of "analysis" after the fact, but the death of those slang before the foundation of the world: the lost.

And there you have it from the Catholics...or some...of whom are "led by fallen, fallible humans" instead of the Holy Spirit sent by Jesus according to His promise. And that is the rift. That is what the Spirit has led men of faith and good conscience to break away from throughout the history...

If I have come in on your conversation in the middle and missed the fact that someone has not even read Revelation, that is besides the point. I was not addressing their point, but yours...kindly, if you please. The fact is, the order of God to confound all language worldwide made at Babel, has...

That interpretation of Revelation 3:12 (if that is your proof text), is greatly in error: Revelation 3:12 is not about the Messiah and his return, but rather it is the Messiah who is speaking about those to whom he gives new names...just as He began to do before going to the Father and also...

Now Stan... "As it is written", "all language" was "confounded" by God at Babel, and "must be discerned spiritually."

Death by paralysis.

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Believing what is true and living by it, is not arrogance, but righteousness. Not because we have done anything to deserve it, but simply because we believe.

Isn't it strange that we all read these same passages, but many do not see them for what they actually say and argue against these simple truths!

I do...but that perfected spiritual body is Christ Jesus in me and I in him: Colossians 1:27 "To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory." "It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in...

Indeed...it is only future for those who have not yet passed from death to life.

Aah...I see. Time in this becomes a confusing obstacle: We consider things that are "the same yesterday, today, and forever" with God, as past, present, and future. But future things are only future in the "it is written" format within the confines of the created world, which is only the...

1 Corinthians 15:46-49 "However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who...

Genesis 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

"God" works. In our modern understanding: Spirit. "Come" is perhaps the wrong term, better understood as "given." Thus, the Holy Spirit was not given except to the begotten. Only One is begotten of God, meaning we must be "in Christ." That would have to assume that it has stopped, but it has...

Yes. Or simply: The "natural" is like an "image" or photograph, while the "spiritual" is the real thing.