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it was formative for the kids, particularly the older one

God bless you joshua!

interesting! It appears you understand a no answer as agreement and that conclusion is not strange. From my perspective I see you inverting...ie, calling white black and black white. How is it possible to make any progress with denial of this nature?

I would ask, do you meet the standard of the law of love which you speak of?

ohhh...yeah, sometimes I mess up in the post as it is being written and I have not found a way to delete it. The easiest so far has been to put in a dot and start a fresh post

what do you mean Addy?

you have heard my post poorly joshua.....read it again

Cristo, yeah! You might like to listen to this podcast on The Lords Prayer, it's fantastic. 7 The Lord's Prayer

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When my two boys were twelve and fourteen I took them out of school for three months and we sailed a small catamaran (14ft) along the northern coast of Queensland. It is rrrremote with large stretches without human habitation. We zig-zagged our way North between Islands and mainland getting in...

no problems joshua. However, here is a link to to some podcasts you might helpful. Many of them address the issue of poor self esteem, self punishment and the whole blame game. If you save the link you can listen to the selection available anytime. ReDiscovering God

strange deduction! this does not answer the question of what 'glorify' means

so then, God does the birthing!

the carnal human mind elevates itself by putting another down. Calling another 'fool' presupposes that the caller is not a fool...hmmmm, the accuracy of that is questionable!

what I am asking is can a man of his own volition generate a new birth....can he decide 'I'm going to be born again' These are not philosophical musings.....they are genuine reflections

I think so....ie, people get saved unknowingly! there are those that ask Jesus 'what are those scars in your hands' and he will answer, 'it is where I was wounded in the house of my friends' ...Zechariah 13:6

could it be that the wicked will remove themselves?

I think we (humans) split hairs to suit our purposes like in kill/murder. Is it possible that all the genocidal mayhem recorded in the OT and attributed to God's command was actually another factor and not God at all?

The whip of cords I think was to move sedentary animals languishing in the sun, and that by cracking it. I doubt it was used on any people. He overturned the tables of the money changers but was compassionate to the doves in cages by ordering them to be taken away.

good story Cristo