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  1. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    Theology makes me correct.
  2. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    Well Sir... In some cases I'm 100% sure that I'm right. How? Because I know for sure. That's all I'll say. We were made in God's image. HIS IMAGE...not like God which would mean that we're like Him. He gave us some of HIS attributes: Which ones do you NOT agree that God has?: God is love. Do...
  3. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    Of course the image was marred. ONLY GOD IS PERFECT. But what do YOU think it means that we were made in God's image??
  4. GodsGrace

    The Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    So you believe in a wrathful God? Not a loving, merciful and just God?
  5. GodsGrace

    The Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    I agree with you. I also do not care for the Penal Substitution Theory. In this theory God is portrayed as a wrathful God that requires sacrifice to be appeased. This is just not the God that I've come to know. In fact in some verses of the O.T. it plainly states that God does not desire...
  6. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    BL,,,,this is a known fact. I'm not going to debate it. God has all the attributes I mentioned which were passed on to us. I DID SAY THAT IN US THEY ARE NOT PERFECT. In God they are perfect. P.S. I just saw your post no. 83 I leave you to Ozspen. But we are to become MORE PERFECT by...
  7. GodsGrace

    When is a christian NOT a Christian?

    I asked @Giuliano what the Christ Spirit is and I do hope he answers. I really don't have any idea.... Is the Christ Spirit the same as Christ's spirit, for instance. Is it like the Holy Spirit? I don't know about the cult you mentioned.. and yes, the more one knows, the more bells go off.
  8. GodsGrace

    You must be born again through water baptism

    Hi E. Great post. I've copied it and put it in my file. (I don't use this stuff, it's for me) I do see in the N.T. that John baptized for the forgiveness of sin. Then we see Jesus telling the Apostles to wait for the Holy Spirit so they could be empowered. Are there more? Is believing a form...
  9. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    P.S. I'm sure that you know that we need to be born again so we could REGAIN our RELATIONSHIP with God which was broken and is broken until we are born from above and His spirit awakens our spirit.
  10. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    Hi BL,,, Ozspen will reply for himself...he has much more knowledge than us. Much more. However, I'd like to answer also. We had preternatural gifts before the fall..for instance, man was made to never die. That is a preternatural gift. Man was made to get along with animals and nature...that...
  11. GodsGrace

    Was Adam, Eve and Creation "Perfect" or "Very Good"?

    From the above it's obvious you don't seem to understand what perfect means. An airplane is not perfect because it could crash due to mechanical malfunction. A car can crash due to mechanical malfunction. They are not perfect and then become imperfect BECAUSE A MAN caused them to become...
  12. GodsGrace

    You must be born again through water baptism

    I see. I've never seen this refusal. My brother, who changed denominations, was asked to be baptized AGAIN,,,and he agreed after much thought. I believe this was wrong. We re baptized into Christ NOT a denomination. Also, the ECFs believed baptism removed sins. This is what was believed. But...
  13. GodsGrace

    Was Adam, Eve and Creation "Perfect" or "Very Good"?

    You seem to be mixing up foreknowledge with causation. I may not be understanding you and am sorry if I don't. Because God foreknows something does not mean He caused it to happen. With our free will we choose what we want to do,,,God just knew what we would choose. I think you believe in open...
  14. GodsGrace

    When is a christian NOT a Christian?

    What do you mean by the Christ Spirit and what do you mean that we cannot know what happened 2,000 years ago?
  15. GodsGrace

    You must be born again through water baptism

    What do you mean YOUR doctrine? You made up this doctrine? And what exactly is this doctrine? If I make up a doctrine..will YOU believe it?
  16. GodsGrace

    Iconoclast

    I don't believe any of the 5 points. Perseverance of the saints has biblical support although I don't agree with that either. I agree with it in the sense that it IS God that gives us the strength to persevere. But we're still left with our free will. Let's not derail this thread....
  17. GodsGrace

    You must be born again through water baptism

    Hey TW, I don't care to scold newcomers. But you're doing the exact thing that you reject in others. How do YOU know who is a believer and who is not? Did Jesus go on vacation and He left YOU in charge? Jesus will judge us...not you. Your brethren, IF you're a Christian, are those that love...
  18. GodsGrace

    Iconoclast

    Hi GH, I don't think @John Caldwell is a five-point calvinist. He has clearly said so. Reconciling the Sovereignty of God and the free will of man is not easy to do. We all have to come to our own understanding of this. However, I don't think JC makes God to be a monster,,,which, yes, basically...
  19. GodsGrace

    You must be born again through water baptism

    I agree with you E. But answer me this: Why was baptism such a big issue back then? Jesus said we need to be baptized when He taught the Apostles how to preach in Mathew 28:19. We read in Acts the baptism of the Holy Spirit...Acts 2. There are so many verse,,,I could list them but I think you...
  20. GodsGrace

    Iconoclast

    Couldn't agree more. No one on this forum can be 100% right.... that's because so many different concepts could be proven with scripture. I'm beginning to not agree with Sola Scriptura anymore. Why? Because when the N.T. was written certain beliefs were already established and the persons that...