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Agreed! So we can't expect for carnal Christians to be spiritual..but we can urge them on with love into selflessness, full surrender, and a faith that causes God to burn up the sacrifice...that we may truly attain to be seated with Christ.

The righteous works that we do before being saved count for righteousness. The wicked things we do before being saved count for wickedness. All religious agendas aside...GOD'S WAYS ARE EQUAL. Hard to take in? Why must people twist the word in order to justify themselves. Isn't the truth...

If you really believed that you would be already cashing that cheque and sending it to the poor in say...Hindustan for mission work there! LOL

Think all you want...an experience that is real also goes along with the bible. So if you don't understand all then how can you understand the cross and the Lord who gave all...ALL! Look up the word..

It is not God's fault that He is fellowship with other parts of Himself! God and the His Son are One as with the Holy Spirit. We are also made up of 3 parts...spirit soul and body. Jesus Christ is the image of God...the body part...The Father is the soul part. And the Spirit is..well I'll let...

I don't think you understand what the bible means by ALL. This is a condition that has spread through great delusion. People don't know what up and down is...anymore.

Of course...but I was using a Hindu in my example!!! ;) Yes, the Christian who follows the Spirit will go far beyond what men can do. But this is why I am opposed to the OP...which states the exact opposite. Why do so many do this???? Why do you make the street tilt to one side. Half of what...

God knows you if you hit the mark even once! That is the point.

You are speaking of a situation where the person obeys his conscience! But people of other religions do as much or more. So this is not a good explanation of grace. What if the Christian does not go back....and say...the Hindu does? What does that say about the Christian and about grace? Who...

It is precisely idolatry and other iniquities that stops one from an entire obedience! What disobedience did Abraham do when he sacrificed his only son Isaac? Was it idolatry to obey God.

Everything with God is at 100%. "You will find Me when you seek for Me with 89% of your heart?" Of course not! So if we never ding the bell at 100% then everything we build with is imperfect. So Jesus can truly say...I never knew you!

between the 2 extremes as you say is the bearing of bad fruit...good intentions notwithstanding. Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my...

Please don't get started on dispensationalism! ;)

You don't have to! Get a bible and a concordance...e-sword is available online. Now check out the meanings... and doubt no more!

What does the bible say? No need of opinion! ;) To suffer loss in the Greek is the same meaning as to be cut-off... as in...what good is it to gain the whole world when your soul is cut-off... (lose your soul)

So then if the fruit is burned up that means that the person has no fruit. So what does Jesus do with those who bear no fruit? They suffer loss...the loss of all things. They will dwell in darkness and wander the earth forever.

...and whose wife will she be in the resurrection....?

Yes...but bad fruit which burns up is not the fruit that God is after. Are you saying God accepts good and bad fruit but bad fruit just isn't rewarded as much?

From a "positional platform" we dive into a pool without water. The higher the dive the more we get mangled.

Loss doesn't mean less of a reward! Loss means being cut-off! Mat_13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.