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Same here. It's what we call growth. Seems like God demands more and more. But it also seems that we're happy to do it...if we can. Here come the faith only believers... :eek:

I don't know what to say. You're happy that persons fear God? I was taught fear as a little girl. It didn't save me. God's love saved me and I'll be forever grateful.

What if they did NOT have consciousness and will? Would you turn them loose? How could one tell if a murderer has had deliverance from a demonic influence? Would YOU want this guy living next door to YOU?

I agree with your last sentence. But, I'm losing the point of this thread. Jesus gave the keys to the Kingdom to Peter so he could start a church...an institution. Jesus also said that power would be received by the Holy Spirit, Acts 1. So, in my opinion, we need both: Spiritually we need God...

Devil Hebrew Liar, slanderer Devil [N] (Gr. diabolos), a slanderer, the arch-enemy of man's spiritual interest ( Job 1:6 ; Revelation 2:10 ;Zechariah 3:1 ). He is called also "the accuser of the brethen" ( Revelation 12:10 ). In Leviticus 17:7 the word "devil" is the translation of...

Who are those prsisoners?

I'm not going to argue this P,,,it's not important enough. Jesus said to love yourself. Our body is a temple. I never said there was an 11th commandment. All summed up in the 2 as you've stated. I NEVER said it's a sin for everyone. That's about it. Not much more to say. :)

Oh! I thought you said Crafts.... Hobbies: My goodness: I used to love to read a book a week. I loved to travel and visit different places and speak to the locals. I used to teach our faith to kids and I really enjoyed that. I love trying different foods.... see: It was easier when you said...

Here it is: Genesis 15:6 6Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness You're right...it says "believed God". Abraham believed God. The word Believe has the connotation of Obedience in it.... But it does say believe. Thanks.

You could believe what you like Doug. Welcome to the forum. I'm going to list some commentary... you could read it or not...however, it is known that we are the Body of Christ right now,,,that we live in a Spiritual Kingdom where Jesus is the head...and one day we will live with Him literally...

The above reminded me of marriage. God created marriage and mankind is editing it to suit his own needs. I feel the same way. How could man change what God created?

Marking for tomorrow.... Night.

Hi Pearl... Sorry I thought this was @"ByGrace" thread! But guess you read my post anyway. :)

There is not a command to love yourself? Mathew 22:39 So as long as there's no fornication..I can do what I want with the temple of God? Touch not, taste not. Now YOU are taking a verse out of context.... or are you? Too tired to find out. Thanks for your reply.

Hmmm. Never thought of it like this.

So you love yourself if you ruin your lungs? Is the body the temple of God? Were there cigarettes back then? I'm not saying it's a sin...just answering your question. I DO believe it's advisable never to start.

Thankfully God is loving, and merciful and just.... or we'd all be in trouble! I like to keep my eyes on Jesus and not worry too much about stuff that has nothing to do with salvation.

Jesus said to forgive them for they know not what they do. Did God Father forgive them?

Jesus came to establish a spiritual kingdom here on earth. He hoped that Christians would effect a change in how humans behave. All He did was speak about this Kingdom. We also will have, at the end of time, a real new Kingdom here on earth...the New Jerusalem, I believe it's called. Not only...

So what does this mean? It seems like Protestantism couldn't really decide whether to leave them in or not. OR Each version did what they wanted..which is pretty much what Protestantism does today. Instead the Catholic church follows what Rome wants done. So they're also more decided in what...