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Richard you are a champion of temporal logic!!! ^_^ grace is the means that makes us able to be obedient to the gospel.

Beheading could mean that they have made Jesus their head. We are to grow into the Head which is Christ...just sayin'

The normal state of a disciple of Christ is to be pure....as in cleansed from ALL unrighteousness. This is not a facade of righteousness but real righteousness and TRUE holiness. Those who walk in this have a witness to thetruth. Those who read verses and amke up a salvation scheme for...

People reap what they sow...being saved is not always the best thing for us. A person who is burned all over their body....disfigured by acid...the loss of all 4 limbs...etc. Those who claim a salvation without an obedience to the commandments of God are in for a rude awakening. Before the end...

But the truth is not good enough for many. They wish to make the words of the bible justify themselves IN their sin. They have verses you know!!! ;)

Brother..the truth sounds "ambiguous" to them...so I'm trying to use more carnal language. The fact that they don't understand the bible thinking it is not ambiguous for them doesn't stop them from putting a carnal spin on it. Why then not put a carnal spin on the "ambiguity" of those who post...

You are missing the point of the maturing of the soul INTO becoming lined up with a full dependence on the Holy Spirit. Becoming spiritual in Christ is to walk exactly as Jesus did. As He IS so are WE in this world.

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You misunderstand because you are reasoning as a fallen man. You don't see or hear the gospel....you are unable to. The logic you are using is man centered and selfish. God's ways are through grace...the miraculous ability to walk worthy of the calling in Christ. Not by OUR power but by His...

The start of a race does not guarantee all will finish. Pride goes before a fall. We have been born again to run a race...not claim we have won. The parable of the talents explains the way God sees our salvation. He gives us grace...for the purpose of winning our souls for Him. If we just are...

Can you cite an example of a church that is not man made????

This thread is divided between those who use grace as a loophole (the way lawyers reason) to get away with sin...a "non-responsibility for sin" clause. While I, and others see grace as the empowerment to obedience in Christ. Grace is not God's soft spot for non-Jews! Grace is not the surrender...

All praise to God! :)

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Amen!!! You have the testimony of Christ! This is not so common these days!

Ahhh the state of the church revealed!!!!

Like fleas arguing over who owns the dog!

Gal_5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. This is saying the same thing as the verse you misunderstand. To crucify something is to put it to death. Do you see that? Rom 8:13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you [f]must die; but...

While I understand the motive...I still don't condone it. One error doesn't cover up another.

Exactly....men love to compare themselves with each other. They justify themselves or their group in this way. This is very carnal. But those who do so are still in darkness. Men like to hide behind labels rather than come to the light in humility and brokenness.