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Well, that's one definition. The definition I use is the assertion of obtaining knowledge beyond rational means. This definition does not include divine revelation, whisperings of the Holy Spirit, Angels or other supernatural communication. For instance, Moses talked to a burning bush. Jesus...

Such thinking as only my denomination will be saved is scary to me.

Yes but time is often not my friend. :musicn2:

Not quite. I showed how it is figurative speech in a book that is highly figurative, as opposed to mystical. Response? Crickets. Speculating "could be" (mystical reality) goes outside basic reading comprehension. Why reach for mystical reality when figure of speech is explanatory?

False. I reject the false concept that I do understand. Throughout my life believers have falsely equated me not understanding with me rejecting a false idea. IF Rev 2 & 20 had it, you would have quoted it.

I thought we were talking about Jude?

I believe holding any doctine suspect is a healthy point to be at. The basic question is, why are doctrines needed at all? My wife has convinced me of the the simplicity of 'it's not about religion but relationships' which echoes what Jesus said, to love God and love others. Going to the next...

Friend, you are lost in the weeds. The point does not pivot on the object of the angels desire - flesh being different or forbidden, which wrongly implies a type of allowed flesh for angels. The point pivots on their sexual immorality - regardless of the target group. Consider a sentence, ‘the...

Both could be true. I can have all kinds of leaven AND you can be making all kinds of mystical connections - in the Bible, in life, etc. Could and can are mere possibilities. FWIW, I might see those same connections but attach a non-mystical explanation, independent of having a double dose of...

His problem is relying on the worst translation available in English. From ESV, which claims to be the most literal: just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of...

Well, the problem with mystical dualism is there is never an exclusive answer. His own references undermine the notion of finality connected to death. There is an Old Navy commercial where the woman says 'sorry, not sorry.' Mystical dualism is like that. Dead but not dead. Dead from a certain...

Putting aside retreating to foreign languages, I've already learned that mysticism is foolishness. Therefore, I reject all such appeals. Search instead for rational explanations.

CEV Ephesians 2:1-2: In the past you were dead because you sinned and fought against God. Colossians 2:13: You were dead, because you were sinful and were not God's people. But God let Christ make you[a] alive, when he forgave all our sins. OK. Having the time to find a 21st century American...

I don't speak Greek. I am Groot. Accepting bad ideas is always fruitless.

I cannot understand the Middle English you referenced. However, maintaining an invalid concept is a fruitless endeavor.

Indeed. God has attributes that limit him. He is powerful but also knowledgeable. He is merciful but also just. He has wrath but also grace. Your argument is not evidence of absolute truth either. It is just a silly argument. The way God set us up is to trust him and others. You are an...

Strawman on top of Strawman. I never said I know everything. All's I did was make numerous Scriptural references to debunk your claim. Again, you don't have eyes to see. Make a blessed day!

I quoted it numerous times. Using deconstructionism, you deny it because the precise combination of words you are inventing to discredit the idea is a superficial ploy. This is even more obvious than the stretch that abortion is a constitutional right as that word is absent from the document.

Yes, I disagree with the distinction. Ayn Rand wrote about the notion of destruction of concepts. One example is to use adjectives to undermine the meaning of the noun. Another example is 'innocent victim.' We hear it so often people are wrongly equating the 2. Logic dictates that if there is...

I know we talked about this before. What you’re saying is inventive but does not hold up to scrutiny. Of course death means only "the body stops working". Separation from God is an independent function. It only matters as it pertains to being resurrected in a glorified body or not. Your...