I said I researched it “to my satisfaction.”You were the one who said you were satisfied, not me
You are the one who did the twisty thing with the word I used.
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I said I researched it “to my satisfaction.”You were the one who said you were satisfied, not me
It's the Koine Greek. Learning truth is never fruitless.I cannot understand the Middle English you referenced. However, maintaining an invalid concept is a fruitless endeavor.
I said I researched it “to my satisfaction.”
You are the one who did the twisty thing with the word I used.
I’ve found what I wanted to find in this thread, to my satisfaction
I have explained it to my satisfaction.
No. Like a snake who dug a pit and laid a net and then fell into his own trap.Like a snake on a pole?
I don't speak Greek. I am Groot. Accepting bad ideas is always fruitless.It's the Koine Greek. Learning truth is never fruitless.
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Where you see bene elohim in the OT, look at the Septuagint translation to see what Greek words the ancient Hebrews used to translate from bene elohim into Greek. Then look for that expression in the NT. I use things like E-Sword, the Apostolic Polyglot, Interlinear Scripture Analyzer, as I have no formal Hebrew training and limited formal Koine Greek training.How would that work, since the massive bulk of when “sons of God“ is used in my Bible is in the NT, with only the three verses the theory is based on in the OT and no verses the theory is based on in the NT?
It sounds like you aren't interested in learning more. I'm just sayin'.I don't speak Greek. I am Groot. Accepting bad ideas is always fruitless.
If I’m following the conversation, marks is trying again to show by Greek that death does not mean something final?I don't speak Greek. I am Groot. Accepting bad ideas is always fruitless.
CEVI maintain there is more to it than that.
I think that’s a weak argument.Adam is called the "son of God", but Seth is not, Seth is called the son of Adam. And it's not that Seth is God's grandchild. Adam came directly from God, Seth did not.
Putting aside retreating to foreign languages, I've already learned that mysticism is foolishness. Therefore, I reject all such appeals. Search instead for rational explanations.It sounds like you aren't interested in learning more. I'm just sayin'.
The commonality to each sort of "death" is a separation. Physical death is when the soul/spirit is separated from the body by malfunction. Spiritual death is when the spirit is separated from God by sin.If I understand him correctly-- he's just saying that physical death is not the same as spiritual death.
Scripture delineates the first death (physical) from the second death (spirit). You disagree with the distinction? Physical death, where 'the body stops working' is not a permanent state--in other words, it's not the end. It's more like moving day.
Like, the spirit moves on and leave an empty house behind.
Jude 1:6-7 KJVI do understand that them leaving their proper dwelling place/leaving their habitation most likely has something to do with taking human form. But from there, men took a leap that is not stated. I think it more likely involved trickery like…making them believe you were a human so they would, instead of running in terror from you, listen to things you were encouraging them to do. Things like how to make your children genetically different somehow so they would be like gods on the earth. And other things too, since God destroyed all but a few animals.
He elsewhere (in Jude?) refers to men as “doubly dead.”
- Ephesians 2:1-2: In the past you were dead because you sinned and fought against God.
- Colossians 2:13: You were dead, because you were sinful and were not God's people. But God let Christ make you[a] alive, when he forgave all our sins.
If I’m following the conversation, marks is trying again to show by Greek that death does not mean something final?
There is an Old Navy commercial where the woman says 'sorry, not sorry.' Mystical dualism is like that. Dead but not dead. Dead from a certain POV. A kind of death but also a kind of still living. Huh? It reminds me so much of the Cat in the Hat or Humpty Dumpty.CEV
- Ephesians 2:1-2: In the past you were dead because you sinned and fought against God.
- Colossians 2:13: You were dead, because you were sinful and were not God's people. But God let Christ make you[a] alive, when he forgave all our sins.
I don’t think strange flesh means Angel flesh. I think it just means regular human flesh you aren’t supposed mingle your human flesh with. Like when God forbid men to sleep with women from a certain place or forbid Men to sleep with other men, or animals.Jude 1:6-7 KJV
6) And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7) Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
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