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You misunderstand the passage. You cannot have it both ways. He "lowered" Himself and borne "the sins of the world." So, we can say that He did not commit any sin or corruption. But that is not what the passage refers to, but rather that He did not see [death]. His end was not death, but life.

Now you are mixing what was true of Israel (the dead in Christ) who were not born again of the spirit of God, with the gentiles who have been born again. During those days, there were both - and you have not rightly divided the word. On the contrary, "There is therefore now no condemnation to...

Do you not understand that tares grow among the wheat, but the wheat is still the wheat of the harvest and the tares are to be burned regardless?

You got me. I was not speaking of the leaven. But of course there are tares among the wheat.

You are assuming the current body of Jesus is a body of flesh without blood, and doing so against the scriptures: "Flesh" "cannot inherit the kingdom of God." "The flesh returns to dust" You are also referring to His body after He rose from the dead, but before He ascended (changed). As He...

Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it." This indicates no glorification of the flesh, but rather a discarding of it, in the process of being "raised" above this earthly plain. Remember, Jesus "lowered" Himself, and...

First, Adam and Eve were given a command and a choice not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, lest they die. Which is what happened. Your way of wording that and "no offer of killing them off and taking them to heaven"...is somewhat confusing. I am not sure whether you are...

As I said, there is no place on some cosmic map that says "You are here" regarding the kingdom of God. That kind of thinking is of the world which exists in outer darkness. "Eye has not seen" the where there, for it is in God.

Addressing #5 You have only described what is true in the world, that which is "passing away"...not in "the new heaven and earth." Nor have you show the "flesh and bone of Christ" which you claim. At each turn, you return to the flesh and to the world, rather than the spirit only, which is the...

Addressing #4 Again you contradict scripture, saying that He was seen in His transformed spiritual body of flesh and bone, when the scriptures say that when we see Him we will "be like Him." This is a contradiction - no man is like Him, there is no other. No, the only way that the scriptures...

Addressing #3 Again, you contradict scripture, saying "THAT BODY", when Paul has made it clear it "Is not that body."

Addressing #2 I do follow what you are saying and do understand the scriptures. Still, you have admitted that Jesus has transformed to be as the Father, which is spirit. But have held to your idea of flesh and bone, indicating that He has not. This is a contradiction. Even if you were to say...

I am not going to have time for all of these, but will start with: That is a fine bit of wordsmithing, but it does not in anyway define the kingdom of God. The kingdom is not a place on some cosmic map. It is most accurate to describe the kingdom as "within" (just as it is written), because...

You say that flesh and bone can enter the kingdom, but the scriptures do not... You say that the body does not enter the kingdom on one hand and that it does on the other... You say that it is spirit that enters the kingdom, and then you say it is flesh and bone... Indeed the scriptures are...

The difference here is as different as heaven and earth. How do you reconcile what you have just stated with the fact that "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God?" What I have been advocating is the very transfiguration from flesh to spirit, from the world to the kingdom of God...

I prefer it. The only down side is that someone can change something and then say they didn't say what they had said. But if you call them on it and "quote" them in a reply...then you have captured the true original comment. But I have gone back and caught myself in a typo that makes what I...

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things.’" John 1:2-4 "He [Jesus] was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made."

Your sentiments are clear and appreciated, even shared when it comes to the bloodshed. But, for the record, Christians do not attack. We may take the fight where it already is and show aggression as a form of defense and self-preservation, but not otherwise. As for your explanation of a...

I see and do not say otherwise, but do agree - Christ did all this, and more. But those things are not of His ascension and are of the flesh, but I speak rather of His ascension and of the spirit. Shall I also leave, because you have not seen what I have been saying?

It is obvious that you cannot separate yourself from the worldly parable and foreshadows of things to come to consider the true meaning of what they are a shadow of, so get back to me if you ever wake up. Meanwhile, I have had enough of your haughty hate and belligerence, and will continue this...