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  1. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    It's a question, not an argument.
  2. Wrangler

    A man asked me are Christians good people?

    I sure is a loaded question! I would clarify so exceptions don't become rules: Do you mean good in the Biblical sense? OR Do you mean good in the general sense? Jesus said no one but God is good. This includes non-Christians. Do you mean Christians who are born again, devout and follow God's...
  3. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Have you ever asked why evidence for the man-is-god thesis in Scripture is always so cryptic and implied but explicitly states Jesus is the son of God?
  4. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    It's not a lie that you cannot show the trinity verse. What is true is that you complain about it being requested and mock those who dare question what you idolize.
  5. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Wow! Project much?! If you don’t have a verse in 66 books that directly teaches your dogma, AND IF you had the fruit of the Spirit, including humility and self control, you’d simply humbly admit you believe what is not there, not call people names. Make a blessed day!
  6. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Yabut = Moving the goalposts. Did not both Moses and Elijah return at the transfiguration?
  7. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You do know that other prophets raised people from the dead, right?
  8. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Just reference the verse that reads something like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who are co-equal, co-substantial and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this, you cannot be saved but are damned to hell forever. And stop your belly aching. If...
  9. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I’m a Biblical unitarian. Once you accept Scripture is the inspired word of God and read it for yourself, you realize you do not have to abdicate your reasoning mind and embrace mystical dualism. To quote Galileo, I don’t believe God would bless us with a reasoning mind to forgo its use...
  10. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Poisoning The Well. You just lost the argument. And for the record, neither @Michiah-Imla nor I are JW.
  11. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    As he said, this was already thoroughly addressed. How many laps do you need to get it? To summarize, there are 2 basic problems with relying on Thomas statement. It is not a declarative statement but an exclamation. When I drop my toast, butter side down, I am not actually claiming the toast...
  12. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Not close? Not sure why you are drawing the line along living flesh as the point pivots on the language usage of manifest. You want ‘manifest’ in this context to mean is but that is not how manifest is used in language as I demonstrated. How about this? The spirit of the Japanese people being...
  13. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    LOL Scripture speaks for itself. Deut 6:4 directly says God is 1, not 3-in-1. John 20:17 directly records Jesus saying he has a God. There is no need for me to prove anything to you. Scripture cannot be more directly communicating Jesus’ God is the only God.
  14. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    EXACTLY! Likeness is a synonym with showed or manifested. Language usage. It does not say Jesus is God. It does not say God is Jesus. And the reason is because Jesus is not God. The discipline the coach instilled in the team was manifested in the last 3 plays of the game. The manifestation is...
  15. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    LANGUAGE USAGE. Do you realize how this parallels saying Lizbeth’s likeness is manifested in a drivers license? The ID is not lizbeth, just a manifestation.
  16. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    No fallacy charge can be made when you don’t make an argument or continue to make groundless assertions, I.e., not grounded in Scripture. I asked for a Scripture verse that says what you claim. That you provide none tells the story.
  17. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You do realize the trinity is not in the Bible, right? It's such an important doctrine, neither the word, nor the concept is mentioned once in 66 books! Profound.
  18. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Born a Jew, under the law, compelled to believe God, who we relate to as Father, is one and not 3-is-1. There is no evidence Jesus ever stopped being Jewish. This is the Messiah's philosophy.
  19. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Oh, what verse says that God made Jesus God? The problem with trinitarian claims is that there is not one shred of a Scriptural sentence that say anything like what your dogma is. This is God's word, 'For us, there is one God, the Father.' Simple. Direct. Irrefutable. Even a trinitarian can...
  20. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Agency. You are deliberately confounding Gods words. He is the savior and has chosen Jesus as the agent of our salvation. That doesn’t make Jesus God.