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  1. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    No. You keep demanding dubious, trintarian tactic of imposing your doctrine onto unitarian text. Not the same thing.
  2. Wrangler

    "The word was a god"?

    Where does the presumption come from that one is obligated to deny worship for himself? The Christian claim that only God is worshipped is totally false. Daniel, David and Nebachanzer were all worshipped without denying it. No one claims that means they are God.
  3. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I agree with you (althugh there is some evidence the OT simply referred to a young women). Despite being raised a Catholic, I could not accept 'The Immaculate Conception' did not apply to Jesus but to Mary. This has no Biblical support but it is clear that Jesus' conception was immaculate. :)
  4. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Yet, you continue to draw ludicrous conclusions while denying there actually is no Scripture that states what you claim. There is no Scripture that states 'Jesus Christ IS YHWH' or 'Jesus is eternally Almighty God.' The simple reason for this is because Jesus is not anyone but a servant of YHWH...
  5. Wrangler

    "The word was a god"?

    Not sure there was a question. Elohim is a word that means 'heavenly being.' It may or may not pertain to the sole Creator (singular) as it could refer to angels (plural).
  6. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    It is not a belief that the 'godhead' is not in Scripture. Sure, sure, it is in a bad trinitarian translation but I think your doctrine ought to be able to stand on what is true and such posts show what a house of cards doctrine it is.
  7. Wrangler

    "The word was a god"?

    You are fond of your copy and pasting of websites in place of discussion and debate. Is "I am the only one and there is no other" singular or plural?
  8. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Another part of our cultures pervered notion of equality is the inequality between Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Jesus was given all authority in heaven and Earth. What authority does this leave the Holy Spirit with? None. All. Not equal.
  9. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    This is the EXACT opposite of what Scripture says in the 1C.
  10. Wrangler

    Queen is possibly end of life ….

    From this link, William and Harry are going to her side. If they are putting aside their squabbles it must be VERY serious. Queen Elizabeth health updates: Royal family travels to Scotland (usatoday.com)
  11. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Not dishonest at all. I thought the focus was on v7 since we already covered v6. Let me type this slowly so you will understand. There is no verse in Scripture that says Jesus was God. v6 re-states Genesis, man being made in the image of God, Jesus was in the form of God. Image of God. Form...
  12. Wrangler

    Queen is possibly end of life ….

    Really? You are equating a beloved Sovereign monarch with centuries of history to despised dictators?
  13. Wrangler

    Queen is possibly end of life ….

    She was a class act, the longest reigning monarch in human history and we are better for knowing she lived.
  14. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    STOP right there Flasher! I am not supposing Thomas did any such thing! An exclamatory statement is not a narrative statement of fact. Not sure what part of this you do not grasp. Regarding taking the name of God in vain, that has to do with legal proceedings. On top of that, god's name is not...
  15. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    LOL. Same question I asked Bruno. Given that Jesus did not teach the trinity in the revealed word of God, on what basis do you claim that understanding is valid? :rolleyes:
  16. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I admit there are trinitarian translations but there are many translations that do not impose trinitarian dogma but respect the unitarian text that came from the monotheist Bible writers. AMPC But stripped Himself [of all privileges and rightful dignity], so as to assume the guise of a servant...
  17. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    That’s a different point that claiming there is revealed word of God outside Scripture. It doesn’t mean that at all. Talk about Creative interpretation! Let me ask you something. If man cannot fully grasp it, on what basis are you claiming to grasp it? :rolleyes:
  18. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Jesus made clear this is what he meant by calling himself the son of god. I Honestly don’t know why trinitarians cannot see it. I guess their idolatry blinds them. What was the Messiah saying when he referred to, below? Certainly not that he was the one true God. 1 When all the other gods...
  19. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    In that they are not what IS. For instance, my savings bank is in the form of a pig. It is not a pig. Language usage. The only reason to say something is in the form of something is because it is something else. Another example, a cake in the form of a guitar.
  20. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    At least you accept that your doctrine contradicts what the the Bible actually says.