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  1. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    You have it backwards. Descartes could not deny the fact that he was thinking and the undeniable extension of this fact is the undeniable fact that he exists. Concentrated statements of Absolutes.
  2. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Sokath, his eyes uncovered/opened! We don't cease to be - an absolute. I don't think so. I already demonstrated multiple ways God is finite. Perhaps it is 2nd hand information you are getting or someone relying on a bad translation, not dividing the word of God correctly.
  3. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Yup. Do you have faith in your fellow man? Can anyone prove something to you that you did not see or at least be believe them? Most atheists are also misanthropic and would never believe their fellow man on such matters. You are asserting a negation, which is really no assertion but a denial of...
  4. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Our lord's yoke is light - but not nonexistent. Where do you stand on forgiveness? Regarding works; there is a difference between 'works' in the Bible and what we today think of work. As I've mentioned several times, the line is between internal working out your salvation through humility and...
  5. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Yea right! Is that a mantra you heard once and parroted without critical thinking? Have you read the Bible?
  6. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    So, at long last, you acknowledge the existence of absolutes?
  7. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    I confess that I struggled for the longest time with this, especially as I lost my infant son due to sudden infant death. :( Except for the murder part, you got it right - almost. It was not a question. And it was not appeasement. I'll be happy to explain the proper moral of the story, if you...
  8. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Utter nonsense. Phobia = irrational fear. Opposing sexual deviancy is NOT rooted in irrational fear. It's just an Appeal to Ad Homenim.
  9. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Jesus was referring to those Roman guards who were torturing and murdering him. You are a bad guy because Scripture says that God has provided numerous proofs but you are too stiff necked to humble yourself to his Works and Words. The book of Job delves into that. God asked Job where was he...
  10. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    I think it is plural. Questions. And good. I'm glad you asked. :) I may have to break up my responses into several posts. I never said yet that God is the absolute. I'm not sure why assert we are not absolute. Consider Jefferson's Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness. Happiness and Liberty...
  11. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Trinitarianism is a 4th century man-made idol. Proof of this is the complete absence of it in Scripture. To be clear, when I write that the trinity is not found anywhere in Scripture, I mean that neither the word nor the concept of the trinity is explicitly in the Bible. To avoid the inevitable...
  12. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Biblical unitarian Christian. I've rejected the trinity at the start, many decades ago, as an obvious violation of the 1st and 2nd Commandments. As I grew in wisdom and stature I realized it also violates definition, language usage and logic. Consider the juxtaposition of the famous John...
  13. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    My nature matters not. It is not about me. What matters is the undeniable aspects of reality. Your quip of not knowing anything is a word game you play with yourself. To propagate it, you must throw a 'not' into what you know. Just because there are things we do not know, does not mean there is...
  14. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    We've covered this before axioms are conceptual not rooted in perceptions. It seems you cling to a subjective, mystical viewpoint. What you see or don't see is irrelevant to what there is to see. This is the greatness of Columbus; he pursued a path others did not see and found half the globe and...
  15. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Agreed. That is why I reject the trinity. To say 'The trinity itself is a contradiction' is an absolute.
  16. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Untrue. I've already repeatedly proved it. Beyond that you are setting up some kind of Strawman. There is absolutely no connection between something being noncontradictory with being proven. Let me put it this way. There is an axiom that when you eliminate the possibilities, what remains, no...
  17. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    It's a good point you make here. I want to differentiate between language usage (words) and concepts. Relying on how people use words is an exercise in futility AS IF reality is subject to the political process of democracy. Rather focus on the notion of concepts, starting with the concept of a...
  18. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Absolutes are not only proven, they are axiomatic, meaning they are undeniable. Consider this, if absolute truth does not meet the criteria for proven, then "proven" is a concept that has no existent. That is, nothing is proven. And if nothing is proven, then that reveals yet another absolute...
  19. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    My Sailor's have a beautifully soft nib. Gives great flex. A real joy to write with. OMG! Me too. I match my pocket knives with my shirt.
  20. Wrangler

    Here's some data on John 10:33

    Just because I reject imposing trinitarian dogma onto unitarian text does not mean that I am not being honest. It's so funny how you pretend my previous post below, did not respond to your litany.