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  1. Wrangler

    Spotting Heretics

    Friend, we've covered this several times already. I thought @Ferris Bueller explained clear enough but let me be emphatic. No human decides what a sin is. Scripture defines what a sin is, the law is already defined. The purpose for humans is to be like a grand jury, determine if the facts of...
  2. Wrangler

    Spotting Heretics

    A couple of months ago a friend of mine who I play tennis with went through this process. 2 ministers gave him an ultimatum. Repent or be banished forthwith. He stubbornly refused to repent. He is my friend but he has sinned. Because I am not an official member of that church, I have not...
  3. Wrangler

    Spotting Heretics

    No. Like at work, my primary role is to let all sides have their say and then guide the attendees dispassionately weigh the pros and cons, without bias or malice. Mary, I don't play the 'what if' game. Initially, people do disagree. As the discussion of pros and cons proceeds, it generally...
  4. Wrangler

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    I don't ignore these verses. I just don't impose an trinitarian interpretation onto unitarian text. Every epistle, including Hebrews explicitly say the Father (alone is God). Jesus also explicitly says this and that his God is the only true God. Why is this not definitive and good enough for...
  5. Wrangler

    The Divine Plan of the Ages by Charles T Russell - Jehovah's Witnesses

    I'm not understanding your point. Can you clarify concisely what truth they had and how they let it go?
  6. Wrangler

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    Is it God, 'the' Father, or God, our Father? God, who alone is our Father, has a personal name, YHWH. His anointed has a personal name, Jesus. God is spirit, not flesh as Jesus is, as we are flesh. God's nature has attributes, such as power, grace and holiness. None of anyone's attributes...
  7. Wrangler

    Why OSAS teaches all sins already forgiven

    I'm not sure exactly what you are saying here. I don't think @robert derrick claims to be perfect. Is that what you are saying? It's late. So, allow me to ramble a bit. ;) Hmmm. I like the VOICE translation of v3 Blessed are those who work for justice, who always do what they know to be...
  8. Wrangler

    Why OSAS teaches all sins already forgiven

    It's sad they cannot provide straight answers. (This is the nature of dualism) In reviewing Romans 7 that you referenced above, I came across v19. It implies, according to OSAS, that Saint Paul was not saved and born again since he admits living out evil on an ongoing basis. I can determine...
  9. Wrangler

    Scripture Study of The Immortal Soul (Spirit of Man/Woman)

    I didn't say anything about feelings.
  10. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Did you read the thread on Evidence to Be Seen? Just last month there was a miracle at my church. The month before my wife experience a miracle. A few years ago a coworker experienced a miracle. The evidence is overwhelming. The Bible has a way of describing people like you; you don't have...
  11. Wrangler

    Can SCOTUS overturn gay marriage next?

    Friend, you are side stepping. My question was not about emotions but actions. In the Bible, love is not an emotion but action. Loving God's will mean action, doing his will. Do you think God wants us to live (an action) a life in rebellion to his will? (It is a simple question. And one does...
  12. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    I don't believe a word you write! There IS evidence to be seen! You just don't want to see it because you'd have responsibility in KNOWING there is more to the universe than this mortal coil and that is too overwhelming to ponder. Just last month there was a miracle at my church. You are...
  13. Wrangler

    "The word was a god"?

    You are changing the frame of reference, which is being resurrected as a spirit or in a body.
  14. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    False. I trust Scripture that says to act, to seek and you will find, to knock and the door will be opened, to ask and it will be given.
  15. Wrangler

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    Not an answer to the question but an implied Appeal to Ignorance/False Alternative. You mean to say one cannot talk to one group about how a 2nd group is made in the image of a 3rd group? Wow! For instance, a POTUS cannot say to an audience of foreigners that Americans today are like...
  16. Wrangler

    Scripture Study of The Immortal Soul (Spirit of Man/Woman)

    Christianity isn’t supposed to be practiced alone. You need community. Iron sharpens iron. The ‘perhaps’ in your reply suggests you mostly know it all already. You only admit it is a possibility rather than a scenario approaching highly likely. Is that accurate?
  17. Wrangler

    Scripture Study of The Immortal Soul (Spirit of Man/Woman)

    So, only other people have subjective beliefs - that you feel obligated to emphasize - but you have objective beliefs. Wow! Not a lot of spiritual maturity there, my friend. :eek:
  18. Wrangler

    The difference in churches

    I did say there were many wars. In the interest of brevity I did not list the numerous atrocities initiated by the Roman Catholic Church, like the inquisitions, that set off what seemed like an endless cycle of vicious action and reaction, attack and counter attack. The actual history of...
  19. Wrangler

    Scripture Study of The Immortal Soul (Spirit of Man/Woman)

    Do you also have subjective beliefs MatthewG?
  20. Wrangler

    The difference in churches

    I quickly perused the other replies as I'm late to the party. I'll provide some direct but concise answers. Let's start at the beginning ... t = 36 - 385 AD While Christianity grew relatively quickly, transportation and communication across the known world was extremely slow. Naturally, local...