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  1. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    And you're just playing stupid semantic games when you dismiss the fact that "Pray" have several meanings - the primary of which simply means "To ASK." Words matter - especially when there is more than one definition. Do YOU only pray behind closed doors?? Do you not pray in church?? Do YOU...
  2. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Wrong on ALL counts. First of all - the Old Testament Canon was not closed until LONG after the death and resurrection of Jesus. In the First century - it was an OPEN Canon. The OT Canon that the Catholic Church adheres to was the SAME Canon that Jesus and the Apostles studied from. This can...
  3. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    the Transfiguration isn't an "exception" - it's a reality. Those who die in God's favor are not only NOT dead- they're more alive than YOU are. I pointed to the ECFs to show the consistency of the Apostolic Tradition. Finally - can you explain to me how asking a fellow member of the Body of...
  4. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    And if He wants us to ask those in Heaven to pray for us - so be it. The Catholic Church teaches that we should pray for ALL who have died. Who are YOU to say somebody is "unsaved"? You can't read their hearts - only GOD can. As for asking those in Heaven to pray FOR us - I don't see the...
  5. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    The saints don't need to be omnipresent either to hear our prayers. I don't think it's "iffy" at all. It's Apostolic Tradition. In 2 Thess. 2:15, Paul says the following: "Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, WHETHER BY an ORAL STATEMENT - OR BY a letter from us." As I...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Actually - the Catholic Canon doesn't include any aprocryphal works. It includes 7 Deuterocanonical Books that were removed by Protestants. These Books are alluded to and/or quoted over 150 times in the pages of the New Testament. PS - You're a Protestant - not a Catholic. BIG difference . . .
  7. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    continued . . . Mary’s Immaculate Conception can be shown in Scripture. The Greek word is kecharitomene that Luke used in his Gospel (v.1:28), which is the perfect passive participle, indicates a completed action with permanent result. It translates, “completely, perfectly, enduringly...
  8. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Ummmm, what do you call the Transfiguration?? Jesus was talking to TWO "dead" guys. Besides - who says that those in Heaven who are in the presence of Almighty God are "dead"?? As for the ECFs - they unanimously taught in the intercession of the Saints: Origen But not the high priest [Christ]...
  9. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Yes, please do.
  10. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Actually YOU and everybody else here has failed to show that there Church that Jesus built and the Apostles established is NOT the Catholic Church. You have failed to show that there was another Church that exists to this day. You have failed to show that when Jesus prayed that His Church...
  11. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Whereas, I agree with you on the first part - that there is truth in every Christian sect - the second part of your statement is wrong. Eph. 1:22-23 tells us emphatically that the Church is the FULLNESS of Christ - and He is truth itself. Paul says in 1 Tim 3:15 that the Church is the pillar...
  12. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    No - God is perfectly able to teach His flock in His Church. He uses men to teach: 2 Tim. 2:2 "What you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also". God knows exactly what He is doing and has sent the Holy Spirit to guide His Church to...
  13. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Yup - God is always right. YOUR perversion of His Word, however is usually wrong . . .
  14. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    And again, Pia - thousands and thousands of perpetually-splintering and bickering factions is not what Jesus willed. In John 17, we see His fervent prayer to the Father asking Him to keep his flock as ONE - as He and the Father are ONE. This is not unity and this is not "ONE" Church, no...
  15. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    I don't refer to your Protestant factions as "lost". I refer to them as "perpetually-splintering" or "disjointed" or "divorced" - but not "lost". Then my earlier statement is that much more true. Since you claim to have been a Catholic before you don't have an excuse and probably won't be able...
  16. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Yes - this verse is talking about sexual impurity and has nothing to do with mjrhealth's views about the Catholic Church being the "Harlot of Babylon". If you continue to read the verses that follow, Paul is telling them that their bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit.
  17. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    We are saved by God's grace via the blood of Christ alone. However, we are saved through His Church because this is the vehicle that God uses to reveal his Truth. It was His Church that wrote, compiled and declared the Canon of Scripture. Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit would guide His...
  18. BreadOfLife

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    In other words - you've had just about enough of being proven wrong. I'm sure Nestorius felt the same way when his false teaching was condemned as heresy . . .
  19. BreadOfLife

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    And this verse is about water Baptism. Just 2 chapters earlier, Jesus is baptized – and what do we see?? WATER and the HOLY SPIRIT (John 1:32). Immediately following Jesus’s conversation with Nicodemus, what do we see?? We see Jesus and the Apostles BAPTIZING (John 3:22). This has absolutely...
  20. BreadOfLife

    Why water into wine?

    Your understanding of the Catholic Canon of Scripture is pathetic. 1 Cor. 6:16 has absolutely nothing to do with your warped view of the Catholic Church. Paul is telling the Corinthians that their bodies are temples of the Holy spirit and that they should behave in such a manner. The "harlot"...