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Yep so who trusts the lord completely? Those who believe in Gods promise of eternal life to all who will receive his grace gift. or those who are trying to maintain their salvation by their own power and not fall away?

We love why? Because we are good people? Or because God first loved us. You can't claim you love God when you are tryign to earn his love by your actions.. and you can't claim you have the capacity to love when you refuse to allow Gods love to save you first..

well as John said those born of God can not sin, whoever sins has NEVER SEEN or KNOWN GOD. So I agree. many think they are saved and are not. in the same token, many think they are saved because of their works. and are not either. Lets make sure we are not in one of these groups

nah, we can't fall out. because we could not climb in. if we can actually fall out. we had to climb in, You can;t have it both ways. Grace is all of God. Not of works..lest anyone should boast. Should we not depend on God and stop trying to depend on self?

yep.. Those of us adopted into his family are one with him.

well when I bear false witness. I will take that into consideration. there is a huge difference between thinking you can obey the requirement (perfection) and admitting you understand you fail daily to obey the requirement. the penalty of sin is death. Not being baptized, taking communion and...

hopefully we all do..

yep, are you sinless? If not.. you fail to meet Gods standard. last I read/ only one man can make that claim, He died on the cross

If this is true, then Christ would need to come back and die again, Because his sacrifice only paid for past sin and not future. Your right the law is not done away with. It still requires that we confirm and obey every word. As james said, if we keep the whole law yet stumble in one point we...

well everyone who rejects the gospel has committed the unpardonable sin. Denying christ would be rejecting the gospel. That person would also be an Antichrist. and John said they were never of us. They did not lose salvation, they never had it. God did not make a mistake by giving a person...

You love to focus on James 2 yet totally ignore Romans 4. Instead of trying to find resolution. You just accept the passage that appears to support you while ignoring the other. God does not need you to prove your faith. He is not so weak he is unable to determine your faith is correct or not...

for ALL have (are) sinned (sinning) and fall short of the glory of God If I can't meet Gods standard before or after salvation. It seems odd to claim I can lose salvation. because I did not live up to the standard or failed to keep myself at some level of sin which God requires.

Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, I am not quite sure how someone can call it mercy, when we are required to go to a place, get in front of a bunch of people...

one thing to remember is the fact he did not tell everyone to be baptized in acts 2: 38. Unlike the command to repent, when he spoke to everyone there. also, eis can not only be translated for "in order to receive" it can also be translated for "on account of"

yep. Well I listen to the apostles. and jesus I don't listen to a church that tries to institute salvation by works.. non of those verses you posted contradicts my gospel..

God did not carry me to the baptismal He did not carry me to church to take the eucharist he did not do my work for me. It is not a completion of faith. It is a result of it. WHen you trust your parents, and they ask you to do something, You do not think about it,. You do it, because you...

excuse me, But it is the NOSAS folks who are in essence saying they are the holy ones. Those who rely on their faith in Christ admit their sin and their inability to meet Gods standard (perfection)

false false and more false. The standard is perfection. just 1 sin, even if it was a mistake is enough to make you fallen short of the glory of God.

Gods standard is perfection. If you are not sinless. according to Gods standard you are rightly condemned so when you claim someone can lose their salvation. You in affect claim, you can meet that standard. hence where sinless perfection comes. there are two ways to heaven. the wide gate...

I am truly amazed at those who do not understand the standard or glory of God (rom 3) and how all of us have fallen short of that. (for all have sinned) Then think somehow miraculously they all of a sudden meet that standard after they are saved, and are not still where they stand far short of...