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Ok I see that. We still have the one person who whom they all give their power too. Also the 3.5 years given to them to go against the saints. And the other things we are told they will do Are they still in power today? Sorry just trying to figure out your thinking..

Yes I have heard of these. But what power over the earth did they have? Who was over all of them? And when did CHrist destroy them as a nation?

I do listen to THEM. Why don’t you? No I just take them for what they say. You want to bring in passages which contradict those verses when we use them as you use them The Bible must agree. It can not contradict. You need to stop listening to what you are told. And start to listen to the...

I am confused. You say we do not know the kings yet. I agree Then you say they will be defeated by Christ. I again agree Since CHrist has not returned yet to defeat the final kingdom. What is the issue? Revelations will give us these answers I think but we have not got there yet. I did not...

feel free to give us a different interpretation We see these same kings later. We are not just saying this, but feel free.

I see everyone wants to go to Chapter 7. I was hoping to go one chapter at a time and see what we can gleem from that chapter before we move on. But here goes dan 7 Lion with eagles wings - Babylon, we are told wings were plucked off (lost its power) and made to stand like a man. Nebachadnezar...

Pride Pride can not get out of its own way,It must take credit. It must have a say, It must be able to do. Pride can not see truth, All it sees is itself.

so many red flags there hard to number

I just go by what the word says, I could care less what YOUR CHURCH says, I do not follow men. lol. So we ignore all the other passages. Paul was speaking to people tryign to add works of the law to the gospel. what is the difference between the jews adding works of the law. and the church...

It is sad how divided we have become.

You can overrule the objection all you want. It does not make it real THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE. Spiritual life can never be earned, if it is grace it is not of works Paul said. You can not earn life, the only thing you have earned is a death. Jesus said he came to give the bread of...

Those are rewards Eternal life is a gift. Please learn the difference The context of this passage is the tribulation period. The great tribulation Jesu spoke of. He is speaking of enduring till the end when Christ returns, If you do this, Your physical life will be saved. Your problem is...

What a joke. Same difference Nope you screwed up there was no law in abraham's day. So when Paul states abraham was not found by works, he means works of any kind The same author says not by works of righteousness which we have done, but by his mercy he saved us. Your works are not better...

see there yu go once again calling eternal life a PRIZE. or a reward. Romans 4: 4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say...

so if someone gives you a car. and says they gave it to you as a grace gift. then once you have it, they place all these conditions on you . and say you must meet these conditions or you will lose it. Then it was never a gift. Salvation is not a REWARD. It is a GIFT. the penalty of sin is...

Ther is one answer that works God so loved the WORLD he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish. But have eternal life God supplied the plan of salvation for everyone. But he will not force it on you. If he did that, we would be mad he made us robots. Which...

Romans 1 makes your point for you. No one has an excuse..

Sadly, I fear people like him is tracking a doctrine (osas) because it offends him, so he is to the point he is unable to see what it really teaches. So nothing we or anyone can say will convince him.

You can deny it all you want. It does not make it fact. You claim you can lose your salvation. In effect, if you can lose anything, you have to earn it. paul actually calls you a fool. Having begun in the spirit (faith) trying to perfect in works. (Gal 3) i know you won;t listen to me and...

True faith has works. You can bear false witness against me all you want. It just shows you need to repent of your breaking of Gods command. I do not believe in mere belief for salvation. james said their faith is dead. And Jude said their condemnation was for ordained. I answered the...