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I am not the one depending n my ability to save myself by doing what I think is required to get to heaven, Thats you my friend. I am not delusional. if I was. i would think like you. That I could of my own power save myself.

lol the only people I know who teach osas is calvinist churches. a few baptist denominations. and som non denominations Catholic = nosas Lutheran = nosas Presbyterian as far as I know = nosas Methodist = nosas some baptist = nosas church of christ = nosas church of god = nosas mormon = nosas...

who are we? It does not matter what church you are. if you teach the gospel. your winning people to Christ. where 2 or 3 are gathered... The issue with many churches is they have lost their way. TImes have changed. yet the church wants to stay the same its not the message that is the problem...

yep. Its all about you. Your power. and your ability God is completely removed from the picture. Thats nosas for you

ok well even in christiandom. NOSAS is the most popular belief out there. I mean look at all the mainline christian churches. Even orthodoxy believes in nosas. Very few churches actually believe in salvation by grace alone through faith alone and not of works. to think the vast majority of...

many are not leaving God they are leaving the dead churches.

actually, if you look at all the worlds religions. NOSAS (the belief that salvation must be earned and can be lost) is the most popular belief, Be it Islam, Judaism, Mormanism, Catholicism etc etc.(the list goes on and on) True faith believers who solely rely on Christ to save them according to...

Take this response. Point it to a mirror And read it back to yourself Because it is very applicable to you also please not. I said I can not believe you. Not that I can not believe God.. You showed your true self by ignoring the rest of my post. I will pray for you

that about says it all

And you prove your inability to discern what people say. I never said such a thing. if you would have read what I said, you would have seen the following and remember, that is the post you are responding to. So it makes it twice as bad Think about it? I have Abraham was saved the moment...

I remember growing up as a kid and a visitor coming to church in Jeans, he was harassed by the deacons, and finally told to leave by the pastor. It saddens me to think that person may not come to Christ because of the legalism of the church.

Actually it is the opposite. Instead of being all things to all people. The orthodox christianity is stagnant. Trying to force people to do things their way. I hate rap music, I do not even call it music, But it makes me cringe There are some that feel that way about the slower classic music...

Going to Jail is being punished for a crime, It would be likened to being chastened by God. I don;t know maybe you have not been chastened before? Let me tell you its no fun. But its not the same as getting kicked out of your family because you screwed up. You know for sure God will kick you...

So they did not need saved?

Nope The blood of Christ makes you righteous.

Well see thats just it Paul said work out your salvation. Which means you have it not that you were trying to work to keep it. Paul always worried he would be unqualified to give the gospel because he did something that made people question him,, We all should be worried about that/ If we are...

Everyone I know says they do. But when you hear them talk. They really do not They teach we should be afraid we can fall away. Now how can they claim to rely on Christ if they are relying on themselves to keep themselves from falling away

the responsibility of the moral law is perfection. Moses made that requirment Paul re asirted that requirment and James proved it by claiming we can obey every word yet just stumble in one point and we are guilty You have not made perfection. thus you have failed to meet that requirment all...

the red one are osas believers, But unlike you, I will not call you an idiot.

lol. If you are this way, You have not understood the word. nor that fact you have been saved, and have been given eternal life. No one is resurrected yet. Yet this same paul said to be absent from the body was to be present with the lord. We should all press on. Not in order to save...