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  1. amadeus

    Living Faith

    @"ByGrace" I will give it a shot, but I haven't read much, if any, of the rest of this thread. Jesus came to bring Life! Can a person be in sin and or have sin in him and be alive in the sense that Jesus is Life? What Jesus did was pay the price as one uncorrupted. This opened the Way or the...
  2. amadeus

    The Elect?

    But before God gave them a skin, they sewed themselves their own covering from fig leaves! They thought they were properly covered, but God apparently did not think so. Does this also relate?
  3. amadeus

    The Elect?

    Or to the deluded!
  4. amadeus

    The Elect?

    Does it relate then to this verse? "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful." Rev 17:14 He called many. Few of them were chosen for His reasons. How many of...
  5. amadeus

    The Elect?

    If we make the effort taking the first step in something that is necessary [to change our mind or to take up our cross] and asking Him for help as it is needed [when is it not?] then He will be there to take up the slack. God knows we cannot do it alone and when we also realize that but grab...
  6. amadeus

    The Elect?

    Only one step in each case. How many steps are required in each case for a person to end up with God at the end of his course? Likely the precise number differs from person to person. But how far ahead should we be looking? "This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be...
  7. amadeus

    The Elect?

    Even so! Even if in our heart we believe God has taken us by the hand, we need to bite our tongue until and if He tells us to do otherwise. Too many people who may well in the end be a part of the Body of Christ should never, open their mouths when it would be better to keep them closed with...
  8. amadeus

    The Elect?

    By @Enoch111 The apostate will not be among the elect. But the true children of God will not be deceived by Satan's signs and lying wonders. There are many bogus miracles and miracle workers today. But Christians should not be deceived. The teachings of these miracle workers generally expose...
  9. amadeus

    The Elect?

    By @Copperhead If you stop at Romans 8, that leads one to conclude one thing. But if one throws in Romans 9, 10, and 11 and then tosses in Isaiah 45, then one comes to another conclusion. And if we take all instances in scripture of "elect", there are 4 different assignments of elect. One to...
  10. amadeus

    The Elect?

    By @CoreIssue The answer is simple. Read Romans 8.
  11. amadeus

    The Elect?

    By @Dave L As I came to believe over time, God only gives persevering faith and the witness of the Spirit to those for whom Christ died. If I were not one of them, I would not believe in Christ. I'd love sin more than God and return to my evil ways.
  12. amadeus

    The Elect?

    In response to the suggestion by my dear old friend @"ByGrace" I have started this thread based on these questions: Yes, and then comes the question again of just who exactly are the elect... and how are they selected? Were they really preselected as some apparently believe? I am purposely...
  13. amadeus

    You might enjoy some of these: (Just some stuff I found lying around from an old class)

    Yes, this is why sometimes I simply take the time to try to reorganize things in the computer but it is a never ending process. There are always so many odds and ends so don't seem to fit in already established categories. Looking through a miscellaneous to see what's there can sometime take...
  14. amadeus

    You might enjoy some of these: (Just some stuff I found lying around from an old class)

    It was hard at the first and some of the things I do now I certainly did not know how to do at the first. Now I do them regularly and don't have to concentrate to know what to do to add to a folder, make a new folder or make copies of files to place the copies in new places. I'll grant that I...
  15. amadeus

    You might enjoy some of these: (Just some stuff I found lying around from an old class)

    Things that I want to keep permanently in my computer from any Internet site, [such as this one] I copy and paste to a Word processing program in my computer. Once there I may identify the source and date and I may give it a title. Then I use "save as" to my the Document folder/section of my...
  16. amadeus

    Workers of the flesh will not inherit eternal life

    You and I likely disagree on some details, but I generally agree with what you say here.
  17. amadeus

    Workers of the flesh will not inherit eternal life

    Yes, because until they disobeyed God they had Life even if it was not unending. The necessity to be "born again" was not there until people were dead. What is this sin nature of which you speak other than death? What people lacked until Jesus made it available was Life. Adam and Eve did have...
  18. amadeus

    Workers of the flesh will not inherit eternal life

    They at the very least, I would say, types or shadows of the born again or born from above believers of today. They were clean until they defiled themselves by disobeying God. When a person truly repents and receives the Holy Spirit today, he is similar to Adam and Eve prior to their...
  19. amadeus

    Why are our ordained pastors so ignorant of Scripture?

    Yes, God has certainly called people to be ministers as per Eph 4:11. but some misuse the calling pursuing their own glory rather than God's purpose. Others who perhaps never had a calling from God to minister act as if they did in order to receive the material benefits they desire.
  20. amadeus

    Workers of the flesh will not inherit eternal life

    Was it or is it a better mind and heart than initially given by God to Adam and Eve? So then you are saying that there are people who say that they are saved, but really are not? So then should any of us be making a final declaration to others about being saved as if the final decision was both...