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Yeah he did that’s why he changes us for the better, so we s chose to serve hm, because he is faithfull a dog returns to his vomit because he is still a dog, he was never created into a new creature

Same goes for you

Nope they had true faith to begin with, they were make believers not true believers why do you all insist God has no power to change everyone he makes his child?

Once again he lords words are about people who have true faith, it’s descriptive not prescriptive, true believers can not lose salvation because they fail to live up to that command, because they do Gods commands, because they have faith,

How many times have I said now a true believer would never lose faith. It’s not a possibility, so would I say otherwise, you keep insisting I believe we MUST. That’s not true. That’s a slight variation. Of what I really said, but untrue all the same

That’s why we will never lose faith why are you fighting it? you lose faith in people who are not trustworthy, you just admitted god never fails, so if you really had faith you could never lose it

Are you hard of hearing? Its NOT ABOUT ME. Its about THE GENTILE CHURCH. They believed, No one has ever been saved by mere belief. If they were saved they would have produced fruit. True faith plus the holy spirit produced fruit. Shame on me? You can't even talk like a christian, You talk...

Cut off every gentile? As in lose salvation? Again, You have no understanding of the passage. The passage is about Israel getting cut off. And a warning to gentiles not to be puffed up. That just as they lost the blessing, we can be cut off also. I do think the church is losing its way, and...

I am sorry But you keep supposing we can save ourselves by our own power Once again, Matt 7 is about the people who believe. Not about unbelievers ALL who have faith in Christ do his will. Its not a prerequisite to be saved, Its a result of being saved because of faith. If you trust someone...

The people who follow away never had faith to begin with. Remember the man who asked Jesus to heal his child? the man said he believed but help him with his unbelief That is shallow faith that Jesus turned into a miracle healing of his daughter, Mark my word, That mans faith was not weak after...

wow Well I am going to exit stage left here Your God is no God at all. My God claims to be a god of love. A God of love does not force people against their will. You can not have any type of meaningful relationship with a dictator who forces you against your will Good luck with Your God. You...

Remove the encourage part. Our hope is in the promise of Christ (eternal life) Our belief is based on that hope. the only way we lose it is if God is unfaithful.. Have you witnessed God ever being unfaithful all through scripture even once?

Yes, I was surprised when I learned this also..

No we do not agree. WHy do you keep insisting this when it is not true?

The point of the whole thing is that everyone from adam to moses had absolutely no access to God. If any of them touched that mountain or came into the presence of God they would die. Your trying to make it a law issue. It is not. But since you can not get the law out of your head. You can not...

1. Paul was not talking about induvidual salvation 2. Every argument God made was to show Israel was not chosen because frommans wisdom, but he chose his own way, I have done “both it” from both the fatalistic perspective and the non fatalistic perspectives and only in the non fatalistic view...

Whatever my friend yes it about osas the passage you gave states those born of god do his will. It does not support NOSAS

no, that’s not the point. Once again, the law is not part of what I want you to see..anyway, Never mind, I see why you seem to think you can lose salvation now. You do Not understand what a person actually has to become to come to faith, so it would easily see why you think they could lose faith

Well if you think God dragged you against your will as your tried to stand still and kept fighting him as you were skinned alive being dragged across the pavement, well feel free I saw in your testimony God setting you up. Putting you in position where you were forced to chose. Andled you by...

Your question is a distraction from the issue. You tell me, He never knew them, Meaning they were never saved. And just because they did works in his name, were they true works? Jesus said they practiced sin. And yeah it is relevant. you take the passage as a whole.