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I did not even mention the law god said it was forbidden for them to approach him period.lest they die, they wanted moses to talk to them because their fear of God was so deep they knew if God spoke to them they would die. Because they understood their guilt, before the law was even given...

The word faith in the Greek means to have an assurance and a trust as for scripture faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen in the HOPE of eternal life, which God, who can not lie, promised before time began...

It goes deeper than this I asked what happened, and what it should teach us. what did God earn would happen to any person or animal who touched the mountain, and what did the people react to God on the mountain?

This is not true, this is mere belief, a knowledge is not faith, This trust is faith, it’s different from mere belief.

It’s to prove a point. Can you please answer

If this is true, then we can’t lose salvation because we would never lose faith. Because our faith is not from us but from God Why won’t you answer my question?

But you must do this of your own power and it’s your work not Gods can you please answer why we must go to Mt Sinai, what can it teach us?

Thinks he has the power to maintain his salvation?

So it is god who leads us to faith, yes I agree

So you conjure up faith in yourself?

If you think what I said judged you you must have a guilty complex you should investigate that again, when your ready to stop crying give me a yell

I know one things I am finished playing childish games when your ready to stop crying and discuss the word look me up.

If he teaches we can stop believing and still be saved I disagree

How?

Who is BB?

Yet you teach god does not have power to change you and keep you from falling because he is faithful? I asked about Mt Sinai and my Zion, and how we need to go to both for us to come to Christ and if you could explain why this is true. And if you understood why it does not work to come to Zion...

Oh? So God just throws away his cherished children? Whom he purchased with his sons blood? wow

Salt loses its flavor means it loses its effectiveness. what happens to one who loses its ability to work and produce?

The only person who can judge me is God. you can judge me all you want (anyone) but your judgments are meaningless.

Like a kid who has all the power behind the computer screen,